Because she might not have used any of its chakra or had it leaked into her system.

 

Thats a pretty big leap of logic that it never interacted with her at all when inside her body.

 

Doesn't work. Naruto was born with his whiskers, meaning there was at least enough Nine Tails' chakra in her system to effect the unborn Naruto.

My take on the whisker marks is that you get them from prolonged exposure to the Nine Tail's chakra while not being an jinchūriki (perhaps the seals used provide protection from further exposure). That explains why Naruto and the Gold and Silver Brothers have them, while Mito and Kushina do not.

Interestingly this would mean that Tsunade's Senju parent would have had the whisker marks as well, just like Naruto.

 

I think it's because of the way the Kyuubi's chakra interacted with Naruto and the brother differed from how it interacted with Kushina i.e. exposed to it during conception and growth/ingested it vs having it sealed within.

On that note, I'd say that Gaara's father was the son of the one of the previous Ichibi jinchuuriki.

 

I don't know if this has been mentioned in the thread. But am I the only one who thinks the First is fucking Awesome?

First thing, He's completely overthrown Orochimaru's control, if I'm reading the manga right, something the second, third, and fourth all cannot do. Second thing, he shut down the Second, who, by the very act of spiking/flaring his Chakra/KI, started to damage the area around him.

Third, I fucking love his attitude. He's laid back, calm, friendly, perceptive, and absolutely sincere in his desire to do right by others. He strikes me as the sort of person a Mature Naruto could become.

I honestly hope we see some Fanfic that has to do with him, here sometime soon. Something Epic Length.

Edit: Yup, last page. I'm a dumbass.

 

I think Forth too could brake Orochiaru's control. He had done with Kyubi before after all It can't be that different.

 

Only if he's capable of using jutsu whilst restrained by Orochimaru. And assuming he can use the contract seal on himself.

It might have just been me but like how Hashirama gives the impression of an adult Naruto, the way that Tobirama and his relationship with his brother was represented made me think that that's how it could have been if Sasuke had stayed loyal to the village. Other than the Uchiha prejudice at least. Did anyone else get that Hashirama & Tobirama = Naruto & Alt!Sasuke vibe?

 

Yeah, I kinda got that. It gave me all sorts of fic ideas.

 

I often wish this had been explored a bit more, since it has the potential to be of interest. I mean the whiskers are an obvious effect, but realistically speaking, would just having cosmetic birthmarks be the only effect? I would think Naruto should have been altered to be more bijuu-like in other ways too.

I would think having Kurama be there at the very instant Naruto was conceived and just a single celled organism, and then continue to have Kuramas chakra continuously suffusing Naruto while he develops from that single cell into a baby, would have more effects than just "whiskers". You would think there would have been changes on a far deeper level than that, when from a certain point of view Naruto really could be considered somekind of half-human half-bijuu hybrid (even if the percentages are not 50/50).

Add to this the fact that he then had the bijuu sealed into him at the ancient age of 30 minutes or so, giving his body no time to even try to learn without said chakra, and you would expect Naruto to be a totally abnormal jinchuuriki compared to Kushina and Mito who both had Kurama sealed while they were already adults and fully grown/developed.

Would be an interesting fanfic if Naruto has a natural ability (his own) to sense malice for example, due to being part-bijuu. That kind of ability alone would totally fuck up everything while Naruto was growing, if he could actually FEEL the malice/darkness in all those who dislike/hate him. Or that he could maybe handle Kuramas chakra easier than others, due to it being basically a natural part of him, rather than something utterly foreign as it was to Mito and Kushina. Ohwell.

I always figured that by consuming Kuramas flesh, the two brothers basically accidentally did to themselves something equivalent to what Orochimaru did to Yamato. Orochimaru injected Yamato with Hashiramas DNA, and Yamato was altered and gained Mokuton. The two brothers "injected" themselves with Kuramas chakra flesh and through that somehow infused themselves with Kuramas "DNA" (or equivalent). So basically they accidentally genetically engineered themselves or something, and turned themselves into human/Bijuu-hybrids. Might also be another explanation for why the guy who died it with Hachibi died. Of the 60 Orochimaru experimented on, only 1 survived. And I would expect that its even harder to survive changed caused by exposure to another species entirely.

How does the timeline work anyway? I mean its obvious that Naruto got his whiskers from exposure in the womb, but I am unsure how the timeline fits with Mito. Pretty sure she and Hashirama were already married when she became a jinchuuriki, so its possible that Tsunades parents were born prior to that.

Then again, I seem to remember a vague mention that they know about the whole seal breaks during childbirth thing, because it happened to Mito, which should mean that one of the children would have had whiskers. However you would think this would have been brought up by now.

Though there are lots of unexplained things between Mito and Kurama. How did she gain negative emotion sensing for example, without gaining KCM. Makes me wonder if she somehow was better at suppressing/controlling Kuramas chakra, or maybe Hashirama did it for her during the pregnancy to keep Kurama quiet, and thats why Tsunades parents did not get the whiskers. Because the chakra was being so suppressed by the efforts of both Hashirama and Mito, that it could not reach into her womb to influence the developing infant.

Kushina on the other hand was far more young and inexperienced than Mito, and did not have a super mokuton user to help her, so it makes sense her control would be inferior, allowing Kuramas chakra to spread into Naruto in her womb and start doing changes.

 

New Naruto out.
http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/621

Madara and Hashirama being bad ass I might actually watch this fight when it makes it to the anime.

Flashbacks inside of flashbacks...

 

- Hashirama's a goddamn beast.That Senju Kannon jutsu be crazy.

- More stuff supporting my idea that there's a link between Mokuton and senjutsu. Nice.

- Susanoo!Kurama looks stuck between awesome and fugly. I'm edging towards the latter.

- Flashback within a flashback? Flashception!

Damn, that would be a sight. As long as they aren't lazy about it or don't do a repeat of Pein vs 6TK Kyuubi.

 

Ugh, the only good thing about that fight was all the gifs it spawned of Wil E. Coyote like moments.

 

Hashirama is one bad ass mofo, but I won't stand it if it was another narusasu moment between him and madara before he met his wife. It would be a great insult to either of their badass persona(s).

Anyone think that final move looked similar to the netero's move from HXH?

 

Yes, it is. They are both based on Senju Kannon. The animators also used the same concept for the jutsu used by the ninja monks.

Edit: Here's something interesting. That image was made during a discussion about the differences between the map posted at the start of the manga and the one during Kushina's discussion that showed us where Whirlpool Country once was. A couple of dudes noticed that the long island above Whirlpool Country had been split in two between then (whenever it was that said country still existed) and now with no explanation.

I think this chapter showed us how that happened.

Edit 2: Damn, disregard that edit. The timeline doesn't work; the VotE should be happening before the first war and the island was split in two sometime between the second and third war.

 

I always wondered, how do these guys practice these moves of mass destruction? How?

 

Not much to this chapter except epicness, really.

 

Their training grounds are the forest, seas and mountains that make up the continent. To them, a landscape-altering battle between warring shinobi is nothing more than a friendly spar. They practice upon the field of war where "training their jutsu" and "destroying their enemies" are one and the same.

 

Take this chapter for example. Had Hashirama ever used that thing before? If yes, I dont think anyone would have forgotten about it, and it wouldnt have been such a end-all trump card.
On the other hand, he clearly knows what it is and how to use it.

 

Naruto did a lot (all?) of his senjutsu training at Myoubokuzan among the toads. Perhaps Hashirama developed this technique at a similar place, where he would have had plenty of room and privacy.

 

Is it just me or does young Hashirama look like Rock Lee? Maybe the senju aren't as dead as they seem, perhaps the power of youth is actually wood release.