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OdinMage's (Dark Harry Time Travel) Challenge #1

Discussion in 'Challenges' started by OdinMage, Nov 2, 2006.

  1. OdinMage

    OdinMage Fourth Year

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    Challenge #1

    Dark Lord Harry, several years after having killed Voldemort, goes back in time to some unspecified time between his 5th and 14th birthdays (the number 9 being powerful, and the extent of the spells variance). Once there, he relives his life from that point, continuing down his dark path.


    Must haves:
    1) Harry must have followers AND some sort of mark or glyph, though it doesn't have to be a tattoo (ie. it can be a ring, pendant, brand, tattoo, anything).

    2) Harry must, at some point, kill Ginny. A bonus if he wipes out the whole Weasley clan.

    3) The story can be any straight ship, single, multi- or harem, but there must be one girl that is his slave. Not someone he loves or cares about, but someone who he keeps just to humiliate and degrade and use.

    4) He will be very strong magically, and more knowledgable than in cannon, but only to the extent that he has learned more since cannon, not that he suddenly had the knowledge of all the Wizengamot laws downloaded into his head (though he CAN have Voldemorts knowledge; maybe that is where some of his stronger magic came from, killing Voldemort involved sucking his mind and magic from his body and letting it and his soul die).

    5) Rituals!!! Whether things he did before going back or things he waited to do until he goes back; maybe some rituals work better (or only work) on a child, and not an adult? (ie. things to enhance speed, strength, stamina, maybe enhance cognitive ability)

    Must NOT haves:
    1) NO SLASH.

    2) No shopping spree for a trunk with 7 giant rooms and a built in time-turner; that said, he CAN bring things back with him IF the method of time travel brings his physical body back to that point in the past (ie. if it is just his soul or soul and magic that go back, he can't bring anything, but if he goes back physically, even something as easy as a super-time-turner, and then uses a spell to merge his future self into his younger body, he can).

    3) If the story isn't going to include the crap that was book 6, then Dumbledore still has to have died somehow in the war against Voldemort (ie. Voldemort or a Death Eater killed him, NOT Harry) but Harry can kill him in the new timeline.

    4) If Harry goes back to before Hogwarts, he CANNOT be sorted into Slytherin. Any other house is fine, but my thinking is that by that point he would be far too 'slytherin' to let himself get labled as one.

    5) No friendships with Draco or Snape. They can become his followers, but NOT friends.


    I've tried to stick to the challenge rules, that aside, if there are any questions on the rules I've given for the challenge, as I know one or two are a bit confusing, email me and let me know what you are wondering about!
     
  2. Muttering Condolences

    Muttering Condolences Card Captored and buttsecksed

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    My main concern is to why Harry turned Dark in the first place, and why would he need to travel back in time if he is already super-powerful?

    Now, if Harry has a good reason to turn dark, and then turn into a Dark Wizard, he would probably be afraid of being killed. A good idea would be Harry not absorbing LV's knowledge, but has to work to figure it all out by himself for at least a decade. So defeating LV, he leaves Britain, determined to be the most powerful wizard he can be. On his dark travels he gets cornered by someone (OOTP, foreign ministry, bounty hunter etc) and is forced to travel back in time to escape certain death.

    This presents him with a unique opportunity. Assuming he remembers how to kill Voldemort, and retains his magical power/ability from his thirty-ish self, he now has a decade plus of extra training time.
     
  3. Dark Syaoran

    Dark Syaoran No. 4 Admin

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    Super-powerful? Never super-powerful. He should be fairly powerful, since he defeated Voldemort, but super-powerful? Nah.

    Maybe he goes back in time because, in the future, the Ministry or whatever lightside group has him cornered, and its only a matter of time before they find and kill him.

    Bleh.
     
  4. ip82

    ip82 Prisoner

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    Well, this feels like another regrugriation of canon, only with dark!Harry this time. Besides, why would a dark lord of Harry's calibre want to go back into being a 12 year old kid? Honestly, this idea doesn't make much more sense then those stories where Harry's teaching his parents DADA...
     
  5. OdinMage

    OdinMage Fourth Year

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    Ok, first, I was leaving the reason for him becoming dark and going back in time up to the writer(s)... it makes things more open for them, but I have to say I like the getting cornered idea.... second, by 'super-powered' I didn't mean god-like, I meant that he has enough power that he took out Voldemort, and has had several years for that power to continue to grow/mature...
    As for being a regurgitation of cannon, that really isn't what I'm looking for either... depending on when he goes back, he could get the stone, use the basilisk, kill sirius so he becomes lord black, etc.... but the cannon stuff wouldn't be main points, just things that happen because, in the bigger picture, the timeline is still relatively the same.
     
  6. Yarrgh!

    Yarrgh! Pirate King

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    Heh...I dunno about this :/

    I have to agree with IP when he asks why DarkLord!Harry would want to return to being a kid. THinking about it logically, wouldn't he want to stay in his time, because the two biggest opponents to him are aready dead? With Voldemort and Dumbedore gone, the world is at his mercy...so why would he give that up to go back in time and be a 12 year old?

    Plus, it just seems like it's an excuse to rewrite canon with Harry being able to kick a fair deal of ass.
     
  7. OdinMage

    OdinMage Fourth Year

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    partly it is an excuse to rewrite canon.... that aside though, my original thinking, though I do love the stuck in a corner and goes back to save himself, was that he would go back because then he could start influencing things sooner, maybe get some of the people that are in school with him, that he knows will be great at this or that, to be on his side, instead of against him later on....
     
  8. Palver

    Palver High Inquisitor

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    Majority of fanfiction includes sweet, kind, loving Weasley family, smart friend Hermione, grandfatherly mentor Dumbledore, fatherly Sirius, emotional Griffindork Light wizard Harry and all that sweet shit.

    In order to balance universe, it wouldn't be too bad, to have short fic about insane Dark Lord Potter accidently travel in past and start murders in cold blood, with lot's of bones, flesh and internal organs everywere. How ofter do you read this kind of fanfiction? I bet not on regular basis.

    It could help releasing Weasley tension.
     
  9. Dark Syaoran

    Dark Syaoran No. 4 Admin

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    I gave a realistic reason. He's cornered, his powerbase is in chaos, the Ministry or 'New Order' is closing in on him every day. He knows he cant win, maybe because he was hurt in an earlier duel/battle with several strong and knowledgable people. Perhaps he was even double-crossed and poisoned, cursed, whatever, by one of his followers.

    He feels the only way to survive is to go back in time. Now, I dont know about the whole 'merge with his younger self' thing. I guess he could do that, as a way of de-aging himself so he lives longer, but going to Hogwarts? No, I dont think he'd do that. If its before he is 11, then he could leave fairly easily, I think. If not, and he is already going to Hogwarts, it'll be a little more difficult to slip away, but it could be done.

    I feel, if he merges with his younger self, their ages should too. So 11 year old Harry with 55 year old Harry would make... 30 year old Harry, or someshit. I cant remember how you do it. My maths is rusty.
     
  10. Belgarion213

    Belgarion213 Slug Club Member

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    Myabe you should get rid of the 'He knows he can't win'. Perhaps he is retreating, but knows that in a straight fight it is probable that he would tie with whatever group are catching up. Have a faulty transportaion device be responcible. What would be cool would be if he traveled backin time and DID NOT merge with his younger self. So now there are two Harry Potters, one Dark Lord and the other Boy-Who-Lived. That could be qquite interestig.
     
  11. Yarrgh!

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    Those are actually all cliches now. Older!Harry adopting younger!Harry, some sort of time-portkey blasting him back through time into an extremely convenient point in time.

    Your last line, though, is very interesting. If you have Young!Harry be the 'golden boy who hates the dark' and older!Harry be a Dark Lord, and put them into constant, direct conflict with each other...that'd be pretty awesome.

    That is...as long as Older!Harry is NOT Voldemort, through some stupid twist of an overused plot device.
     
  12. I don't get why he would want to go back in time when he already is powerful where he is. I'm guessing that everybody fears him?

    Dolosus Sicaruis

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  13. Thorn

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    My take on it is this.

    Harry, a dark lord with his grip on the world tight and conquering, has all opposition destroyed. There is no more Order, no more Death Eaters, Dumbledore, or Voldemort. Theres him, and the world he controls with a wave of his wand. But he hates it. He hates that theres no opposition. He wants to go back to a day where there were those that were worthy of fighting him. He wants to start the war all over again.

    Now allow me to adjust your challenge.

    If the writer would so choose to send Harry to go back to Hogwarts, or a point where he would want to escape, it wouldn't be because he to go back to school or anything. It would be because he wants to earn his power again, because he wants a challenge. He wants to feel his magic grow again, the euphoria that was coming into his all-power.

    Hell if you really wanted to you could do it multiple times, giving Harry an addiction to going back in time and slaying his greatest adversaries. But as a final challenge for himself, he chooses not to merge with himself, but rather to fight him self.

    That would be my take on it. It seems more realistic, for Harry to have somewhat of an addiction to reliving his finest moments of power, to want to recreate the world as he sees fit every single time. An addiction to his own power, and the desire to keep recreating it.
     
  14. CrashLTD

    CrashLTD Fifth Year

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    This idea seems more plausible than the cornered Harry. Or maybe he isn't addicted to power- only strong adversaries and seeing as both DD and Voldy are out for the count and the rest of the Wizarding World being idiots, he has no choice but to go back in time and make adversaries of DD, Voldy and little Harry, the only ones who are powerful enough to oppose him.
     
  15. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Other than it being a generic Dark Lord Harry challenge, my only concern is this:

    Thats a DOUBLE NEGATIVE! Watch out everyone, he wants teh slash!

    That is all.
     
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