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SerDel's Challenges #1

Discussion in 'Challenges' started by SerDel, Jan 19, 2008.

  1. SerDel

    SerDel Third Year

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    Challenge #1 :

    Summary: Harry, working as an auror after the war, is sick of all the attention he gets form wizarding world and decides as an Auror (with approval of the both MoM and muggle Ministry) work with special hard cases in Muggle world (England/Us)/ He gets a muggle agent as a partner (muggles selected most open minded agent). It can be woman or man, whe can be together in pairing or not (I'm aware that DLP don;t approve slash)

    Rules:
    -Harry, while auror works as muggle policeman / secret agent.
    -He gets the partner
    -Voldemort is dead
     
  2. Methene

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    Meh, I see problems in the future. There is no conflict, since The Dark Lord Voldemort, forever shall his name be praised, is dead, and after killing the biggest Dark Lord of the century and his fanatical followers, dealing with parking tickets and helping old ladies cross the street seems a bit of a put off.

    Second, there are filthy muggles involved. Enough said on that.

    Maybe it could be a Harry Potter/James Bond humour crossover, but otherwise I don't see much potential.
     
  3. SerDel

    SerDel Third Year

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    What can I say: IMO Voldemort is weak and pathetic in comparision with what really ugly muggles can do. Their technology will wipe wizarding world ass in a second.
     
  4. Andro

    Andro Master of Death DLP Supporter

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    Read Taliath's In Light of Silver Memories.

    I'd rather see any author capable of making a good story out of this work on something with more potential.
     
  5. Methene

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    That is merely muggle propaganda SerDel. Muggle technology stands no chance against a fully trained wizard.

    The only advantage they have can be best quoted by Alfred Bester:

    "It takes generations to breed a telepath. Mundanes breed like rabbits."

    Numbers is the sole advantage they have.
     
  6. The Doctor

    The Doctor Unspeakable

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    Suitcase nuke.
     
  7. Hadoren

    Hadoren High Inquisitor

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    Three thousand to one are pretty good odds. Especially with muggle-borns on your side.

    Anyways, there's been a gigantic debate about this before, so I'm not going to say anything else on the topic.
     
  8. Gabrinth

    Gabrinth Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    Think of a mage named Harry and his female cop friend working to fight the baddies.

    It worked in the Dresden Files didn't it?

    Every time you post I wish we still had rep (i.e. ++++)
     
  9. Tehan

    Tehan Avatar of Khorne DLP Supporter

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    Decisions, decisions. Try to stop the wizards vs muggles debates before they turn into flamewars, or break out the gasoline?

    Hmm...

    BUT PROTEGO CAN STOP NUKULAR ASPLOSIONS
     
  10. Lincos

    Lincos Professor DLP Supporter

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    ...Fuck the debate, Plot holes galore means we have no fucking clue which is better. Though I don't know if its Canon or Fanfiction but doesn't magic short circuit electronics?

    Edit: Oh and yeah OP see 'Dresden Files' like HBP said.
     
  11. Link

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    I thought about Dresden Files when I read the challenge.
     
  12. SerDel

    SerDel Third Year

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    Well, i admit i never heard of Dresden Files. I am now reading first book, it is interesting but not exacly what i had in my mind (I was thinking in the lines of CSI or James Bond).
    As to magic vs muggles: In HP we know that magic makes electronics shut down. But if magic interferates with voltage, then surely voltage in big amounts can shut down magic. That is basic physics law IMO.
     
  13. Randeemy

    Randeemy Headmaster DLP Supporter

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    How is that the basic laws of physics? An EMP wouldnt stop working if you put loads of Microchips inside it blast radius
     
  14. SerDel

    SerDel Third Year

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    If one force influences other, the other influences the one. I'm trying to say that hig electricity will disturb magic becouse high magic disturbs electricity. Sorry but if i cannot say that clearly in english - it is not my native language.
     
  15. Link

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    No, though we were all led to believe what Magic doesn't obey any law... that Magic is just Magic. But that's not true.

    If Magic can interfere with electronic devices, then there's obviously some kind of link there. It doesn't mean that an EMP strong enough would shut down the Magic, but it would surely disrupt the Magic in some way.

    There could be many explaination; the Magic (in large quantities) maybe interfere somehow with electrons; change their spin/charge or something that would effectively cause a malfunction within the electronic device.

    I'm talking about HP magic, Dresden Magic is completly different.
     
  16. Jibril

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    We know that electronics stop working in places of high magic concentration like Hogwarts and Ministry of Magic. That allows every muggle item that do not relay on electricity to work (eg. guns, dynamite, crossbows, etc.).

    But let's just drop the entire point about nuclear power and wizard vs. muggle thing. Because, if muggles would use the entire arsenal of their NBC weapons everyone would lost.

    Wizards could survive the blast? Good, they can die from radiation, water or food poisoning.
    They have spells to protect themselves from radiation, food and water poisoning? They can die from mutated muggle or wizard diseases.
    And the bacteria and viruses are tough and adaptable bastards.
     
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  17. Warlocke

    Warlocke Fourth Champion

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    This is fanon. 100% fanon.

    I've gone over this in other threads like the Wizard vs Muggle 'discussion'.

    Some people (a lot of fanfic authors) assume that electonics don't work around magic AT ALL. That if any magic touches the device or goes near it, the item fizzles/short circuits/explodes. That's Bullshit.

    Arthur Weasley dismantled and then reassembled some of the Dursley's stuff with magic and we never hear that it didn't work again.

    Harry has used somewhat astounding amounts of accidental magic in muggle areas and we never hear that it ruined the electronics nearby. He inflated his aunt right in the middle of the kitchen and it didn't so much as pop a light bulb.

    Dobby popped in and out of #4 Privet Drive and levitated a cake in the kitchen but he did not leave a trail of fried appliances in his wake.

    Dumbledore also performs magic in the Dursley's living room and it harmed nothing but the Dursley's blood pressure.

    Presumably, you could use magic to change the color of your computer case, levitate your television, disillusion your stereo or- Shit, I don't know, enlarge the interior of your car and make it fly while invisible, and it wouldn't ruin the device.
    (Though I suppose if a Ford Anglia is old enough not to have computers in it, the lights and ignition could possibly run off magic. *shrug*)
    The fact remains, magic, in general, doesn't affect electronic devices.

    The only canon on this is that electronics don't work in Hogwarts (and presumably Hogsmeade which is 'next door').

    Hogwarts, no other place.

    Why? Well there are two solid reasons that we can easily infer.
    1: There are no power lines going to Hogwarts! You can't power an electronic device without electricity.
    2: Presumably batteries that get too close to Hogwarts get drained too fast for the device they're in to work.

    The not so solid but still pretty good explanation?

    Most fanfic says it's because so much magic has been performed at Hogwarts for so long that there is a lot of 'ambient magic' in the area and that's what prevents electronics from working there.

    I will point out though, that muggle electronics don't malfunction around Diagon Alley and how long has it been around? The Ministry is right smack in the middle of a muggle populated city too, so it must not be affecting electronics either. If either of them did, the Statute of Secrecy would be doomed.

    We're always hearing about batteries draining at sites of hauntings and places like Stonehenge, or any place that sits at a confluence of ley lines.

    Well, it only makes sense that a place like Hogwarts would be built at such a nexus. This gives us an excuse for why batteries are drained near the school.

    However, this does not rule out the possibility of electronic devices working within the school, if one were to run powerlines out there. Since muggles tend not to go anywhere near the castle, I don't think this will happen any time soon.

    It's not that mysterious or complicated: batteries get drained at Hogwarts, you may wish to employ a very, very, very long extension cord. For all we know, you could bring a gas or diesel powered generator to Hogwarts and it would allow you to run your computer there.
     
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  18. Link

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    "All those substitutes for magic Muggles use - electricity, computers, and radar, and all those things - they all go haywire around Hogwarts, there's too much magic in the air."
    -- Hermione Granger, who has read Hogwarts, A History. GoF (page 548, US)

    If we are to believe canon, it's because of the ambient magic; though you are right that magic doesn't interfere/shortcircuit the devices. Jo's always taking words definitions in their most simple form; in this case, by haywire, she really means "in an uncontrollable and erratical manner" (springs poping out of nowhere, the device spinning uncontrollably, trying to bit someone's hand or something).
     
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