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Abandoned Sighs of the Neglected Flower by Nuhuh - M

Discussion in 'The Alternates' started by Glernaj, Aug 27, 2007.

  1. Marie M

    Marie M Raptured to Hell

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    WE WANT MOAR!!!!
    Now



    Um...:confused:

    Edit: I know Kai Shek, but still...
    I hope Nuhuh will change his mind about that.
    Harry/Lily without smut? Meh
     
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  2. Kai Shek

    Kai Shek Supreme Mugwump

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    just because it appears to eventually be Harry/Lily, does not mean that smut is required.

    Edit: Meh, Harry/Lily without smut will be far more complex and interesting than pairing Harry up with any other random canon character without smut.

    Only real error I noticed besides a few awkward moments. Nice story however, and I am eagerly waiting Harry awakening.
     
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  3. Tinn Tam

    Tinn Tam Review Goddess Retired Staff

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    *stares at the Harry/Lily beggars*

    *blinks*

    ...You know, it is possible to find a Harry/Lily pairing genuinely interesting, even for me, who am not overly fond of it. One could speak, for example, of the twisted, perverse, unhealthy therefore exceptional aspect of it, of the possibilities to add lots of characterisation, to dwell on the characters' motivations and feelings, thus creating lovely insane personalities in a deliciously murky or stifling atmosphere. There is, I suppose, an artistic interest bordering aesthetic.

    On the other hand, "lolz-we're-like-so-hardcore-becuz-we-read-about-harry-banging-his-hot-mom-roflulz" is not interesting in the least, no matter how you look at it. Sadly enough, that's the vibe I always get lately when the H/Lily question is brought up. o_o

    Vash's story features a fucked-up Harry from the beginning to the end. Tehan's project looks like the unhealthy kind I spoke of earlier. Both are therefore interesting in their own way. But... making nuhuh's story a mere plot twist in order to bring Harry and a younger Lily together, then, maybe, have them have loads of hawt secks for every reader to fap to and drool at?

    Jeez, someone give me a shotgun.

    What have we got here -- a mother, whose son is merely five-or-so years younger than her. No need to go all "omg dey must have sex0r!!!1!1" just because the age gap is lesser than what it should be. Lily's maternal instincts and her need to protect him, plus the fact that she misses her baby so terribly (much more than she misses her husband, it seems), should be enough to offset the ambiguousness coming from Harry's striking resemblance to his father.

    Plastering on such foundations, and from the outset, a sexual Harry/Lily relationship, would feel artificial in my opinion. Worse, it would ruin what could evolve into a much deeper, much more complex and infinitely more subtle relationship. Something new. Something akin to older sister/baby brother, maybe. But an extremely close one, almost stifling, to the point where it, too, becomes unhealthy.

    When this kind of relationship has been established, I can see how it might degenerate into a sexual one, though. I do not see it ending well. That remains nuhuh's choice to make anyway.


    Nuhuh: as I said before, great depiction of Lily's feelings and interesting characterisation of Dumbledore. Props to you for the McGonagall bit. The scene in the third chapter where Lily tries to analyse what's happening to her was a bit laborious, especially the passage in the Pensieve. The pattern "she saw her counterpart do this -- she drew the conclusion that, etc." was repeated several times in a row, and the resulting impression was... kinda schoolish. Other than that, I can't remember anything striking me as off.

    I'm looking forward to more.
     
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  4. Amerision

    Amerision Galactic Sheep Emperor DLP Supporter

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    Clearly my approach to H/Lily differs from Tinn :)
     
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  5. japanese_jew

    japanese_jew High Inquisitor

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    Really fantastic story, nuhuh, I'm interested in seeing where you go with this. There were several things that were referenced in the third chapter that I somehow didn't pick up on earlier--I had to reread it, which wasn't altogether a bad thing. I'll be more astute in the future. I'm interested by the summary. So Snape gets his wish, Voldemort doesn't kill Lily, everything is fine. Is Snape now beholden to Voldemort? Or since he harmed Harry (who is spawn of James, but also Lily's child), is he still angry at him? Does Lily owe Snape a life-debt, since he saved her life by asking Voldemort for it?

    Once again, great story, I'm very interested in seeing where it goes. One of the only tasteful possibly Harry/Lily stories that I've seen so far. Both types are good, but I have to say I'm sort of leaning towards yours and Shezza's. . . .
     
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  6. Darius

    Darius 13/m/box

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    Anal is good too.
     
  7. Tehan

    Tehan Avatar of Khorne DLP Supporter

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    My reasons for dabbling in Harry/Lily are threefold: partly because all the cool kids are doing it, partly because I've got a weakness for hot redheads, and partly because it has yet to be done to death by the fangirl hordes.

    Although I got to admit, Tinn has a very good point. Nuhuh, you're the last person to get an easy five outta me based purely on this particular pairing. Savour it.
     
  8. Darius

    Darius 13/m/box

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    See the problem with having a thing for hot redheads is that they're so rare
     
  9. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    And, as can be seen from all the "Lily" sigs, most of them are cartoons anyway.
     
  10. Tehan

    Tehan Avatar of Khorne DLP Supporter

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    Actually, Taure, that's more due to Vash throwing a large amount of Lily-ish anime chicks at me while I was writing to inspire me. It kinda helped, I suppose, but it led to maybe a half-dozen sigs and avs.

    I suppose I'm not really one to talk, though.

    Edit: on continued reflection, I would greatly enjoy reading a big sister/little brother dynamic between Lily and Harry.
     
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  11. Nuhuh

    Nuhuh Dastardly Shadow Admin Retired Staff

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    MysterioX~ Thanks for the well wishes.

    Marie M~ More coming soon, but I am working on three stories, so expect more than a week at least between updates. As far as smut…just give what I am trying to do here a try. For me the story, relationship and the plot otherwise is more important than getting them into bed right away. So just bear with me you Hily smut fangirl :p

    Kai Shek~ Thank you, I think that the story could be more complex if it was not simply hurtling towards smut. Appreciate finding the typo, I will upload the properly edited versions soon.

    Tinn Tam~
    First, I was laughing my head off in the office when I read your post. Although, it is very helpful. I agree that there is a possibility of making this quite complex and I hope I can manage that, what you projected as an off big sister/baby brother relationship with a lot of interdependency might just pan out. Let’s see, I don’t have this story set in stone, part of the reason I am doing it is that I have basic skeleton for it and the rest I will just let flow.

    On your critique, as you know I have redone that part, and hopefully made it less sophomoric. Thank you for pointing that out.

    Japanese Jew~ I am glad you liked it so much so far. To answer your questions, yes, Snape got his wish and Voldemort left Lily alone when he went to kill Harry. Snape is beholden to Voldemort in the sense that he asked for something and Voldemort granted it. Snape is not angry with Voldemort for killing Harry – he really could not care much for that, except the grief that Lily had to go over it. Essentially Voldemort removed both things that were in Snape’s way to get Lily. I don’t imagine I will be using this situation as making Lily indebted to Snape, in my mind Snape would’ve had to save her in a more direct way to get a life debt out of her. Now we can get into canon theories over this, but that is what I am working with in the scope of this story.

    In the end, yes, I do hope it is a tasteful story. Thanks.

    Darius~ I shall not bow to the INDUSTRYOFBUTTS and provide you with anal smut. :p

    Tehan~ Don’t worry about the rating, I imagine it will go down when the smut isn’t forthcoming. Just let me know what you think about it. Hopefully I will be able to show a relationship between them which is interesting, whether it is a sibling type dynamic, whether it is the dynamic of lovers, deep friends, we will see. It probably will be all of those. In the end how healthy it turns out is as much as mystery to me as you.
     
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  12. Darius

    Darius 13/m/box

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    How about the MINISTRYOFBUTTS?
     
  13. Niffler Lord

    Niffler Lord Headmaster

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    Have to say I like this fic. H/Lily doesn't bother me that much. The only thing I dislike is the layout of the chapters. It a little description heavy and I feel like I have to plow thought the words to get the idea.

    On the other hand its worth it so far.

    4/5
     
  14. sephiroththebrokenangel

    sephiroththebrokenangel Fourth Year

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    Very interesting so far but I have to say while the pairing can be done well, Im a little twitchy about Harry/Lily work because whenever I read it it gives me those horrible flashbacks to Demon God of Chaos's work. Thankfully this is looking a whole hell of a lot better than any of that and its being done with taste. So for me 4/5 so far because Harry hasnt woken up yet.
     
  15. Nuhuh

    Nuhuh Dastardly Shadow Admin Retired Staff

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    DLP link for story!

    Note to everyone: I have posted a revised for content version in Work by Author. Please let me know if you like the changes, though they might be too minor for some to notice.

    Link: DLP version of Sighs'

    Niffler~ In this story I am going a little strong on the character development, and I use mood and environment to bring out the personality. So because of that it is and will be 'description heavy.' I have to do quite a bit of relationship development of two people who will not find an easy rhythm, so unfortunately it will probably be wordy. I really hope that that helps you get a sense of who Lily is and how complicated her relationship with Harry gets.

    The character/relationship development hold an equal place as the plot for this story, so because of that the pace of it will be more steady than quickly getting you to like you say, the point.

    Darius~ Ministry eh? You're moving up in the world.
     
  16. Nuhuh

    Nuhuh Dastardly Shadow Admin Retired Staff

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    New chapter posted with Harry and Lily meeting finally, and you lot get the interaction you wanted :D

    DLP link: Work By Author

    FF.net link: Chapter 4

    Let me know how it works, and how you're liking Lily. Thanks.
     
  17. Niffler Lord

    Niffler Lord Headmaster

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    Not bad. Not bad at all. Good interaction and nicely done. I do hope you explain some stuff like the 'Grim Protocol' and why Harry seems to just shrug off the spells soon. A little background on Harry would help too.
     
  18. Verminard

    Verminard Seventh Year

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    I'm liking it so far.
     
  19. Kai Shek

    Kai Shek Supreme Mugwump

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    A little background? I was under the impression that he was transported from DH right when he recieves the Ressurection stone.
     
  20. Chime

    Chime Dark Lord

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    The first three chapters... they're all so short and quick that it feels like a whirlwind blew me over. They could be combined into one chapter, so little happens.

    However, I liked the fourth chapter. Something's happening. And that something is so far good. Too early for a judgment, but this seems interesting... even if I am very much grossed out by Son/Mother incest, I do like this.