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[Spoilers] Worlds 2015 - TRASH TALK ALLOWED

Discussion in 'League of Legends' started by Lungs, Sep 23, 2015.

  1. BsuperB

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    And there in lies my problem with SoaZ - just watching his player cam you can see how easily tilted he is. Huni's like, his double in that regard. Once they die a couple of times, they basically full tilt & try to make plays that just result in a bigger deficit. OG were figured out, same as CLG were. Double TP comp with effectively all AP? Just gotta get ahead early, and probably tilt SoaZ.

    Funny how we tend to shit on Dyrus for similar play, well, not us specifically but people do - and today was very similiar. Amazing left SoaZ to die (on top of SoaZ playing too cocky), Santorin leaves Dyrus to fight for himself.

    TSM could've beaten OG today if they had 2 things. The first being balls (not the player, actual cojones), the second being a decent shot-caller which Bjerg is not but for whatever reason Regi is determined to make him one. They had more CC than I can count but did they ever engage a fight? Hell no. Sure OG backed out of as many fights as TSM did but when you have that much CC you can afford to just go on someone. Unfortunately for TSM they waited till their later games against KT & LGD when they'd throw everything at an ulti'd Olaf. As you do...

    Still, a sad end to Dyrus' career and ultimately the old guard's gone. Be interesting to see how or what he does. Whilst I don't find myself overly enthused by the prospect of him making it as a streamer, I can see it happening due to his massive personal fanbase, best of luck to the guy frankly.

    Seriously concerned for Fnatic today, and hopeful for C9. One going through would be great - both would be difficult and yet... I can hope.
     
  2. Darth Disaster

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    Honestly not in the slightest bit sad to see him go. Especially after that performance. Ulting the Ulti'd Olaf when there are MUCH more important and more viable targets Right There. Not once, not twice, but three times, in two separate games! You'd think he'd have learned in the first game that it's fucking pointless.

    Or that, shock and awe, he should have known that already. After years in the LCS and even longer as a top-tier player 'Don't waste your massively important ult on tanks' should be second fucking nature.

    Really disappointed with TSM. When they're proactive they win, but when they play like passive little bitches they lose.

    Why can't they see that?
     
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  3. BsuperB

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    Because Loco is literally a shit coach and Regi is determined to make Bjerg, the guy who has to not only carry the team but do most of the damage (I guess that ties in with carrying) do the shot-calling.

    Why? Who the hell knows, but TSM seem to basically bend over and wait for the other team to make a mistake. They can't function if someone doesn't make or a mistake or they miss the time to capitalise on it. When they do, well, the KT game is proof enough that they seem to lack the experience in the late-game outside of their plan to wait for a mistake.

    It's strange to watch. I don't want their mini-series they do that follows the team around in the LCS, at Worlds etc but the general consensus is Regi's constantly ragging on the team and nobody wants to stand up for themselves. If they do, Regi shuts them down. I can't speak as to whether nor that's fact, that's just what I take from reading the comments. They've had their own opinion hammered out of them.
     
  4. Darth Disaster

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    This is because Regi thinks he's a fucking God. He got the first ever Pentakill in the LCS and ever since then his ego has been the size of Mount fucking Rushmore.

    Bjerg isn't meant to be a shotcaller. Shotcallers have to be decisive by nature and Bjerg just isn't when it comes to anything but his own play. There's a little snippet in the Legends Rising vide section on Bjerg where Regi is ragging on him for 'asking questions' instead of just telling others what to do.

    Bjerg is not leadership material. The only reason Regi is trying to make him the Shotcaller is because it's Team SOLO MID, and when he was the midlaner he was also the shotcaller.

    It's all just a big Reginald Ego Trip. He really needs to either get over himself and pick someone who knows how to shotcall to actually do it, or kick Bjerg out of Midlane and do it himself. Though I really, really don't want him to take the second option.

    And yeah, I've never been impressed with Locodoco.
     
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  5. andy50

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    Eh, I'm sad to see him go. He was there when i first started watching the lcs, back during season 2. He is the last remnant of the old TSM i first started supporting. Although his play has had ups and downs he was for some reason my favorite player.

    I'm miss him. You can sit back and analyze saying this is why, but I think the coaches and Reginald can see what's wrong based on scrims and results. I don't think it's as simple as saying be more proactive. Anyway that's all i have to say.
     
  6. Lungs

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    That's Monte's argument, yeah. He goes at length about how the mechanically great/most gifted players that we know of were rarely the direct shotcallers - Faker, Madlife, WeiXiao, etc. The only really notable exception I can think of is Uzi, but his schtick was knowing when he was strong compared to other people and vetoing calls rather than making them.

    It seems like over the years the people with the most potential calling on their team are those who play champions/roles with primary engage, which kinda makes sense logically because if that guy's saying "go go go" and he's already tping with full gnar bar or lands a sej ult or uses flash tibbers or something, it seems like it'd be a little more mentally quick than someone like the ad saying "alright go in now, use your ______" etc.

    edit: more on CJ because they shine the most in late game teamfighting scenarios even to this day (probably because rip ssb 5ever) - it seems like their entire team reacts to a series of conditions almost instantly, with the knowledge of what their opponents were literally capable of - legit the only team to take a set off skt as of recent memory. Like, there used to be stories of madlife remembering all the cooldowns and being able to work out roughly which skills with up/down on the opposing team, but he wouldn't use this to call - he'd use it to make a godlike play

    and then his team would react to it because they know that at any point, madlife decides that he's jesus and they're always ready to follow up on it. to the point in which he made space look good in those games somehow

    point is that tsm can use bjerg a bit better
     
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  7. Bill Door

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    Who else on that team is going to shotcall if not Bjerg though? Unless they get a shotcaller to replace Dyrus, but where the fuck are they gonna find one of those in NA?
     
  8. Aerylife

    Aerylife Not Equal

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    I think they should start looking at Solo Que players. I hear Diamond 2 produces some good top laners :^)
     
  9. Republic

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    Lol you actually think they'll look in NA. That's so cute.
     
  10. Bill Door

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    Do they not already have the max number of foreign players in their team?
     
  11. Republic

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    Not sure. If they do, my bad.
     
  12. Imraefi

    Imraefi Third Year

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    Pretty sure the restrictions on foreign players no longer apply to Bjergsen so they can look outside NA.
     
  13. Zerg_Lurker

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    For LCS purposes residency is 24 out of 36 months in region prior to competing, so assuming he hasn't taken months worth of vacation out of the country then you're right, he'll be considered an NA resident when season 6 starts.

    However, Santorin and Lustboy haven't been around long enough for that to kick in, so TSM is still stuck raking through the NA talent pool until at least Summer 2016.
     
  14. Rah

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    I'm pretty sure Bjerg and Lustboy were grandfathered in to the new policy so only Santorin counts against the 2 international limit but it might just be Bjerg. It is funny that the most popular NA team could be 4/5 not NA.
     
  15. xerebz

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    Santorin is also exempt because he's grandfathered in from his time in NACS
     
  16. Tartarus

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    That was a slaughter. Seriously, 26 kills for FNC in 21 minutes? EU>NA
     
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  17. Jon

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    I'm working under the assumption that C9 threw that game and FNC knew since they picked Kennen Shen. xD

    ...Except this AHQ game...
     
  18. Bill Door

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    Whenever I see a Kennen/Shen botlane it really makes me wonder if I'm actually watching worlds from season 5 or if this is just soloQ from season 2 all over again.
     
  19. BsuperB

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    God bless you Jimb0wnz, gone but not forgotten. Apparently.

    Interested to see what happens regarding Tabe's leak with IG's first game earlier in the day... flashbacks to Dyrus and S2 Worlds all over again.
     
  20. Bill Door

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    Nah man, Genja was the real OG AD Kennen.
     
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