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Complete The Denarian Lord by Shezza 88 - M - Dresden Files

Discussion in 'The Alternates' started by XxEnvyxX, Jun 29, 2008.

  1. Insanity

    Insanity Second Year DLP Supporter

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    What I want to know is what Mab's reaction to this will be.
     
  2. afrojack

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    The whole bit at the end with Amanda seems a bit contrived. Maeve should have been (and was) exhausted from holding off the fiendfyre firestorm, and yet was able to summon ice that could hold a Denarian Lord in place at the same time. But I don't really mind it, merely a nitpick. Stems from an OCD preference of the protagonist finishing treacherous bitches off by himself. Overall though, great chapter.
     
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  3. Kang

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    Shock and awe are the predominant feeling so far.

    There was a few small mistakes that ruined the chapter's flow and a few sentences that could have been worded better.

    But fuck damn the amount of awesomeness right now is unbelievable.

    :eek:X:awesome
     
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    Is Amaris actually dead, or will Amaris become the new Winter Lady. I think she is the closest Fae to Maeve dying and if she is still alive. . .
     
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    Well... snap.
     
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    That was indeed epic and Im very happy that bitch Amaris is dead. My only real gripe is that I wish Amanda hadnt been involved in killing Maeve, after everything that nutjob bitch did to him, to me it felt like Harry kind of got ripped off not being able to kill her by himself. Thats just me though this was still an epic update and Harry using the Words in combat like that was incredible.
     
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    Jesus Christ.

    Fuck

    That was, words fail me, ...........

    Epic doesn't do it justice!
     
  8. jazzhonda

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    Well..okay... Lady Winter a Full blown Faerie Queen killed by a sword swinging Amanda and a simple Avada Kedavra!! LOL! - Well it's Shezza's story. Loved the "I'm not crying" by Harry.

    Will Amaris return from the dead - a tiny hope - Actually liked her

    Wow, we have a kickass Amanda - like it alot, now if her an Harry could just shag and get it over with we can move on with the story and forget this whimsical romance.

    Finally the Chapter was Epic.. but sadly not as well written or thought out as it should of been.. a little dissappointed but hey still a worthy read.

    No flames people just expressing opinions
     
  9. jpdt19

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    Interesting point!

    That would be, curious, and rather cool.

    Amaris's alleigance's would no longer be divided. Then again, she would probably be more than a little pissed that Harry's golem stabbed her, even if he didn't mean it!

    The ability to call on Winter's power against Voldy would be cool, no pun intended!
     
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    I can't say I was that surprised at the way Amaris died. If she was gonna go that was the way I'd have expected it, same with Maeve was well really.

    Still, it was very good and I enjoyed the chapter immensely. The fight with Maeve was suitably epic and the Words thrown round were awesome in the extreme. One thing I'm curious about though is whether this 'abominable' power Maeve wields is something separate to Winter's power. It seems to be something akin to the Black Magic of Dresden canon, or at least to necromancy, but I can't remember any mention of it occuring in the fic beforehand.
     
  11. Torak

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    Dam that was an crazy update. Although I wonder how do you plan to make the final Voldemort/Harry fight top this?:awesome
     
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    Two words to describe this chapter:
    "EPIC" and "MOAR" :D

    I am wondering how epic and awesome will be the chapter when Harry fights Voldemort.
     
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    He did kill her...

    Maeve was weak enough by her fights with Dumbledore and Harry so Amanda got the chance to stab her when she was too busy concentrating on Harry. It didn't kill her, just weakened her to the point that she could barely move or gather her magic. Harry then used the Killing Curse on her and killed her himself...
     
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    I didnt say that I thought Harry didnt kill her I said I just wish Amanda hadnt had to have stepped in although I acknowledge it was needed.
     
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    Back to the chapter, "Amazing" doesn't even begin to cover awesomeness of the latest update. In two words: fucking epic!

    So, Amaris died, although not the way I'd like her to. Maeve dies too, and again, not the way I'd hoped she would. The whole thing with Amanda saving Harry's life felt forced - just like afrojack said.

    I already can't wait for another update.
     
  16. Datakim

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    Great chapter. I was surprised that you killed Amaris. I admit I had actually expected her to side with Harry in the end. Nice surprise there. The battle itself was your usual high quality style.

    There were some minor oddities that bugged me a bit like why Harry did not just use AK right away before Maeve knew he had escaped. Might have ended the battle then and there. Also not using iron at the very start was odd. Iron is afterall one of greatest weaknesses the fae have and Harry and especially Meciel knows that. I wonder why he did not simply transfigure up some iron shraphnel and banish the lot at Maeve. Still it was not a huge problem.

    Also, I agree with Krogan that it might have been more appropriate if Harry had managed to take out Maeve on his own. Having Amanda deal what was for all intents and purposes, the death blow was a bit disappointing since she was sort of "outsider" to the whole Harry/Maeve-relationship. Sure its true that Harry killed her with the AK, but I would say that after being run through with a holy sword of iron she was already finished anyway. Still I suppose this too is not a huge problem.

    I wonder what happens now. Insanity brought up Mab but it seems unlikely she would play any role in this. For one, winter seems harsh enough that Mab would probably think that Maeve deserved to die for starting a game that she could not win. Also if Harry had this much trouble with Maeve, Mab would crush him and Dumbledore both like insects so any kind of battle would be contrived at best.

    I also don't see Dumbledore being upset at Harry. I mean sure he killed Amaris but it was obviously an accident on his part. Dumbledore in this fic is a good and smart person and would see that. If anything I see him as trying to comfort Harry and tell him that it was not his fault. I expect Meciel would react that way too, though this might bring up some unhappy memories for her I guess.

    As for Amaris, too bad it did not occur to her to choose to become human after being skewered. Iron is not (as) deadly to humans so perhaps Harry or Dumbledore could have healed her before she died. Also even if she is still a faery and alive, would she get Maeves power? I always thought the power returned to the queens and not just the nearest random faery. Or was this one of the things thats different in Shezzaverse?

    Looking forward to the aftermath. I wonder whats left, Amaris is dead, Maeve is dead, I suppose the only thing left is Voldemort. How much of the story is left anyway? Are we near the end, or will there be somekind of buildup to the final battle with Voldemort. So far he has played a relatively small role in DL so it might be nice to see some actual struggle between the Death Eaters and Harry&Co first.
     
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    End

    The end was a bit unclear.

    Particularly the fight with Maeve and Harry.

    I was confused when they went from this raging storm between Harry and Maeve, to Maeve punching Harry and the action getting physical. That transition was jarring and threw me.

    Also, the Amaris death was sudden and interesting, but Harry's reaction was a little unclear. All we get is "something twisted in his." and then he's angry at Maeve.

    Its a great moment, and surprising one, but the emotional weight of it for Harry is lost. I don't mean describing verbatim what he is feeling. It could be beyond exact emotional description. But describe the symptoms and let the reader infer. We didn't get that. Whatever that moment is that is supposed to happen there, I felt it was not covered. I do not mean to say revel in it, but cover it.

    Also, Dumbledore is not given enough. He could be exhausted, but I was wondering what he was doing over the course of that battle. How many Fae were there exactly attacking the order?

    Lastly, regarding Dumbledore... Its one thing to wish to protect his friends, but the Order, especially this group, are soldiers and fighters largely.
    He has the opportunity to strike down and destroy their foe, but she threatens his friends, people who are trained and prepared to die, and he drops a killing blow?

    Albus may care about people to the point of detriment, but even canon Albus is not that Soft. In OotP, the Order had to fend for their themselves while Albus tried to arrive. And Sirius did die from it. In a remarkably similar situation of rescuing Harry, he didn't say, "Wait for me to get there before you attempt anything." Think of all Harry's canon adventures first year onward, including with Ron and Hermione. And even in this fic with others.

    His flaw is consistently that he has too much faith in others to stand on their own feet, without his interference. It was a moment where I said, "huh?"
    As I watched him run away. It was more than just loyal. It was short-sighted and stupid. To sacrifice a golden opportunity, so he could protect willing soldiers makes no sense. What did they accompany him for, if not to be of assistance? Are they really just leverage?

    I also have a question regarding Aliens and their Words and God as defined by your fic and Dresden...Did God create the Aliens, fae, Outsiders, etc (which raises questions about God's role in those places)? This is a secondary question, but just an idle thought. The other issues were more relevant to your story and of greater concern.

    EDIT: For the record, I had no issue regarding Amanda killing Maeve. Maybe Harry can't be so clearly defeated, but otherwise it was fine.
     
  18. Sorrows

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    Awesome chapter.

    I'm slightly torn on whether or not I like Artemis being dead, on one hand it ties up a major loose end and enables Shazza to get on with the other elements of the story (Voldemort etc,) But on the other hand she was a damn interesting character and it would have been interesting to see how her and Harry's relationship developed, whether she became to next winter queen or if she became human.

    Also, I think Amanda helping Harry to kill Marve is going to add an interesting new demention to their relationship and possible, slightly change how he sees her.
     
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    One would think that a Fiendfyre storm empowered by hellfire ain't nuthin to fuck with. He should have had the upper hand at that point. You paint them as equals in mastery of their elements, and Harry has effectively smothered Maeve at that point with cursed fire. I'm sure Amanda's part is extremely relevant, but the current edition feels sort of anticlimactic.
     
  20. Pieman

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    Unlike some of the others, I'm not opposed to Amanda stabbing Maeve. She was simply too strong for Harry to kill single handedly, even if she'd been weakened by Dumbledore, especially in her home. She's certainly stronger than Voldemort, so Harry simply overpowering her would skew the power ratios if he didn't just wipe the floor with him in their battle.
    While it may seem anti-climactic to some, I say it just shows that she was that overwhelming, that she'd need some 'dishonourable' defeat (Which also helps Harry's anti-hero persona). I was more annoyed with the amount of close calls she had to be honest, she's mean to be the uberhax character that dwarfs you in power. The enemy who shows that there's no such thing as balancing in real life, that there is someone who can beat you in every single way.

    Also, Amaris' death = Sad face. For her to be gone permanently is just depressing, but her coming back without an extremely good reason is just Dragon Ball-esque fan pandering, AKA bad writing.

    I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WANT ANYMORE!

    Screw it, I'm going to read something less depressing, like the Rusty copypasta or FS/N's Heavens Feel normal end.
    You've got to remember Harry spent the whole fight in Winter, Maeve's own steroid environment, and even some time in Winter-style blizzards. He was at a huge disadvantage for way longer.
     
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