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Discussion in 'Gaming and PC Discussion' started by Cruentus, Aug 19, 2014.

  1. Cruentus

    Cruentus Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    Now THAT was just dumb, whoever did it. That being said someone who is supposedly fairly high up in the SPJ wants to create a round table for GG and AGG to talk, he'll be the first to seriously try since TB's attempt fell through. He's asked GG to pick four or five people we feel could speak for us and the voting for that has been going on over at KIA. Apparently during Journalism Ethics week that SPJ holds every year Aaayteam, a troll group that loves using the hashtag on twitter to start trouble, bombed their twitter with some rather bad gore porn which cought this dudes attention. Than, if he's to be believed, after going to people higher up and was told to leave it alone or he would get harassed online he decided to try anyway.

    Also, Mercedes Carrera proves once again to be an intelligent and lovely woman while Chris Kluwe shows his ass, but that's nothing new for him. The debate they had was kinda sad since Kluwe really was out of his depth.

    This is Chu: http://deepfreeze.it/journo.php?j=arthur_chu

    And this is Ian: http://deepfreeze.it/journo.php?j=ian_miles_cheong

    Both are fairly not nice people.
     
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  2. TMNTurtwig

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    So I finally got around to looking at deepfreeze.it, and though I've only gotten through a few of there most recent articles and seen the journalists tab I've got to say, they seem really impartial.

    I'm not particularly saying they have to be impartial since they're not an actual news site, I'm just saying that it's kind of hypocritical of them and I feel it only brings down the overall quality of the website. Which is a shame because if you can sift through the layer (edit: originally misspelled as "lair" I feel that both work in this case) of sheer vitriol there's actually really interesting stuff there.
     
  3. Ched

    Ched Da Trek Moderator DLP Supporter ⭐⭐

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    Necro'ing this thread because this was an interesting link to end on for me. I didn't follow GamerGate super closely, but I've seen this link floating around several times in the last 24 hours and thought someone else might find it an interesting read.

    Author tries to appear as a legitimate outside source doing non-biased research. Maybe he is... but I still had the impression that he went into it somewhat biased, and with this kind of article it's hard to keep that out of your conclusions even if you try.

    Article

    Abstract
    Conclusion
    I admit I didn't read the whole thing... but even glancing through it it really does look like he found the results he wanted to find. The language he uses isn't what you'd use for a neutral study.

    But still. Interesting summation.
     
  4. KaiDASH

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    This just in: Mainstream media calls gamergate a misogynist hate group.
     
  5. Ched

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    Yup. I really do wish he'd done a better job with his report. It almost reminds me of politics, where a lot of what you hear loudest and clearest is whatever the mainstream has decided to harp on. Doesn't make it /right/, nor does it make it representative of the smaller groups/sites with vested interests.

    Granted there were assholes on both sides of GG from what I saw. But that's almost always the case. I saw points made by both sides too. But I didn't personally follow it super closely.
     
  6. Odran

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    What a surprise, someone who considers GG to be everything unholy finds it in his 'study' that they are indeed everything unholy and enemies of all things good.

    Seriously though, this is fucking shameful, the amount of bias he displays.

    If no one had truly sided with GG then it wouldn't have kept going on, no?
     
  7. Gengar

    Gengar Degenerate Shrimp –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Articles like that used to make me angry.

    Then I watch a Let's Play on YouTube with people who would be considered 'mainstream' clearly disclosing relevant information in the beginning. There's also fewer of them by the day labeling themselves as journalists.

    Suddenly, I don't care any more. They can call 'GG' whatever the fuck they want, I don't think it matters.

    There will always be assholes, at least now it's easy to spot and ignore the offensively ethically bankrupt.
     
  8. Hachi

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    I don't know man, if I wrote such a poorly sourced study at work I'd be laughed out of my job.

    While I can't summon enough outrage to care, I definitely hope people who work in HR will notice.

    You don't hire incompetents, period.
     
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  10. TMNTurtwig

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    Good.

    /10char
     
  11. Xiph0

    Xiph0 Yoda Admin

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    Their argument is sound (that voting blocs always form for the awards and when the voting blocs don't like you, make your own), they just aren't very likable in their individual spokespeople. Always a deadly combination.
     
  12. JoJo23

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    Wrong thread?

    Pretty strange phenomenon of the modern age really. The exact same thing is happening with the Labour party elections. Group you can buy into has a vote, the vote gets massively swollen with people voting in ways others dont like . Don't think I entirely buy that it was a hijacking as such though. People legitimately joined worldcon. Feels like they should have had a mechanism to stop that sort of thing, a limited number of members per year or whatever, but I guess nobody thought something like this would happen.

    Think, like GRRM, that it was dumb idea to nuke the awards. Cutting off the nose to spite the face.
     
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