I think the abundance of cutesy smilies may have given it away.

 

not much reactions at all tbh, but then I was already pretty scumread
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Ok, on newcomb I guess so far 2 out of 3 people I asked claim newcomb is actually very good and dangerous in play so I guess it wasn't too strange to make the nk comment by him, and if that's the case here it's just nai so i'm dropping it

 

xD

 

The reactions to .113 thinking he would get NKed was almost universally "boi lol u high" I'm p sure.

 

Ok internet decided to die on my computer. Kinda. Apparently Skype works but not browsers. I probably should know how to fix it but i cant remember

 

Any time now when I refresh there's gonna be a juicy Jari post burying Miner.

 

Can confirm this is going to happen.
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Miner ISO D1

First off, I had a sign ups PR/mafia read on Miner for hype. Not very dependable but /shrug. That same energy is there in his RVS posts (note all the caps).

This is in response to Vira calling Yvtn 'Suburb' for the first time. Anyone else of the opinion that it's a /slight/ overreaction? I can totally see Miner and Vira laughing about it in witch chat though.

Newcomb brought this up in a, "Would Miner call attention to a partner slip like this?" kind of way, but the thing is, this is not like the Amrock tell. It's not an established thing that everyone knows that forgetting you have to read yourself is a scum tell (to my knowledge), so from Miner's perspective Vira just derped here and there's no harm to pointing out where she went wrong. It's not necessarily wolfy, but it's not clearing either IMO.

If anyone still needed it, Miner/Stanari not together.

For the people that likes patterns (Fonti):

Another overreaction to a fluff post.

If Scott/Owner is scum, Miner is preemptively defending Scott from people attacking him for defensiveness here.

This was in response to:

I'm just wondering why Miner felt the need to react to that at all? Like, Zack is not attacking Newcomb at all, but the 'relax' seems to suggest that Miner wants him to back off? Zack didn't do anything in the first place.

Miner picking the Vira read to ask Proph about has been talked about.

Miner would probably do this as town as well. But he later uses it as an excuse to not have a read on Fonti in a read wall, which I don' t like. It's a meme and all, but town!Miner would still be trying to read Fonti.

Now the Newcomb CP. My gut reaction initially was; it'd be great if they planned this. However, Miner's frustration later with repeatedly falling for the CPs came across as pretty genuine, so that'd mean Miner/Newcomb not w/w.

Cuth setting Miner up to make clear he 'doesn't understand what reverse psych is'.

This is way overdefensive considering Newcomb is memeing. Yeah, Miner is not with Newcomb.

The frustration I thought sounded real. I can totally see scum!Miner here bumming out because he feels like he may have given things away in an 'unfair' situation because he couldn't have known about the cp.

The frustration from earlier carrying over. Also defending Scott again and shading .113 while doing it.

A true statement that could nonetheless be taken as a soft defense of Fonti? Considering that Miner's committed to not reading Fonti that is.

"Hehe, good one Jari." Followed by overexplanation about Miner now being able to read tom for reasons. Also the Newcomb thing again, still think Miner/Newcomb unaligned.

Uhm. This seems to be too random to be w/w? Like, why make this comment /now/, after half a day has already been played?

Now this one is really interesting. I think town is way more likely to realise that Yvtn is trolling here. Scum immediately picks up on it being bad, but are less likely to pick up that it's /too/ bad to be real, because they know the person posting it is town. So they take it seriously and Miner goes and posts good townie stuff. Thoughts?

I'll cut this off here for Yeti to start processing it and because D1 is way longer than D2 and D3 anyway so the posts will be nice and even.
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Also, lunch.
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@Newcomb That last point on Miner is for you. I know how you love getting in headspaces <3

Also looks like you're town so there's that.

 

@Jarizok that last post is d1, with 22 players wouldnt you say that v/V d1 is actually the most common happening?

I feel like the "its far more likely v/w might be a partner slip", since a wolf would know if one is wolf and would want to be correctly reading it, adding the "or v/V)" as an after thought?

I mean, Why Also seem to think that spending two days lynching one town and one wolf is bad? I mean, lynching town is pretty common, especially day.

And how would you get little out of lynching a wolf?

 

Uhm, did you see the post he's responding to here? Yvtn was pretending to post something meant to go into witch chat. Of course what Miner's saying here is not wrong/wolfie on it's own. What's wolf-indicative is that he's taking Yvtn's post seriously.

 

Actually read it now and yes the yeavoxxtalknah post seems.. Less serious. Its a pretty bad response by miner.

I still think id Come to the conclusion that its probably v/V though, since either its a staged fight or more likely villa fight. So i think v/V is the most likely, then a small chance of staged w/w fight and actually least chance of an actual wolf on villa fight.
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As in either miner is wary of defending a scum partner here or hes trying to keep some extra shade on them.

 

Oh lol, I didn't read anything into what he's actually saying is more likely, just that he's responding seriously. Couldn't even tell you who the Yvtn post was about. But... Fonti?

 

As in either miner is wary of defending a scum partner here or hes

Well either because he didnt want to townread fonti that fast incase it came back later, or that he wanted to keep the shade on both of them for later.

Doesn't really give us any info we can use about that, but just saying i think it would make more sense to first think its town on town, and second that its staged..

Not primarily that its most likely one wolf and one town.

I mean not counting anything else even by pure random chance its Also town on town most likely..

D1 wolf on town fight. Not likely.
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Vote: miner

This needs to happen tbh.

 

Miner ISO D1 continued

Miner was defending Scott early himself, but now distances himself from that read. The read is consensus from the thread and Miner had nothing to do with it and wants it explained to him.

Really starting to think Miner/Scott could be a thing.

I pinged Miner about lynching Fonti, and instead of giving some kind of opinion on her, we get a meme thing again.

Then we get the spat with Zack. That's what made me swing town on Miner for a bit. I'm still surprised Miner would let it get out of hand as scum, but then I've never really seen Miner get this frustrated the game as either alignment so maybe. It's not enough anymore for me anyway. There's so much scum vibes from him.

Miner is willing to scumread Newcomb, but he needs Jan to make a good case first. Looks good for Newcomb again.

Don't want to read into the Zack peace offering post.

Again, I'm blanking on why Miner felt the need to comment here. This time I don't even think the quote goes with the quoted, but maybe someone will explain it to me.

And this is open wolfing.

A foot in the door for a possible Vaimes lynch in the future? Don't think that's a smart move and/or will ever happen this game, but everyone was alive back then. Who knows. Continued by saying Vaimes readslist is super bad. (The Office - A Mafia Game)

Check out the sneaky mention of mindmelding with Fonti! Probably doesn't mean much to anyone else but that's fine.

This is obviously meant to look like he's considering Cuth, but there's no lean to it at all. It's completely up to thread to tell Miner what to think of Cuth. 100%.

Looks good for the Wei slot. Also, paging 1 scumbuddie and 1 townie.

Colors are mine obviously. Rule of 3 makes Scott scum. Argument could be made that Wei/113 is then also scum, but they're not because I'm townreading them Also, that would be too many scum. "But what if Fonti is town?" Yes, well, she's not.

Odds that Miner knew what this meant or could have figured it out himself by thinking about it for a couple seconds? I figured it out, so can't be too hard, and my thinking is, if you're town Miner here and you've fallen for the CPs repeatedly and have gotten in a spat with the new people already as well, you want to do at least /something/ to make a good impression right? Whereas as scum, "ask questions itt" is totally the thing.

Likelihood that Miner picked up on the phrasing and connection of Cuth/lynch/danger because that's what the scum team was worried about at that point in time?

Miner would like more words on why his buddy tsaiah is town.

And then distances from the read once he gets those words, 'cos tsaiah aint gon flip town. But he's not saying the case is bad. Just that it doesn't do anything for him personally. He's fine with Stanari having that read obviously. He doesn't prompt Stanari in any way to reconsider.

Lol. This coming from the man who's been on Vaimes' case the most of anyone this day.

Oh but wait, Miner 'just' thinks Vaimes is town now and has totally thought that all along.

So now tsaiah is kind of alright at least. Not in a way that Miner can't say he didn't have a read there, but he can later point back at this as an excuse for townreading tsaiah so that's something.

Miner is overcompensating here. Everyone lets themselves be distracted by a bit, wishing me luck and asking for updates and what not. Miner though doesn't have time for that shit, he's got serious scumhunting to do! Like my alignment at that point was at all relevant. Wagons had been phoned in.

End of D1
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Thanks for the combo breakers btw 113. If this was all one ginormous post people would fall asleep halfway through.

 

It's in the post above this one that he implies a w/v relationship @Stanari

 

Miner ISO D2

Miner opens D2 with:

Compare to his post from D1

Emphasis mine. Seems to me like Miner was rather ??? on wolf!Kalas playing as he was, unaligned with GH just 24 hours ago? Can't blame his for pushing that mislynch though.

Cuth support against Yeti.

Some more.

Another person Miner is perfectly happy with not reading.

Asking other people to read his scumbuddy for him again.

Back and forth with Yeti follows. Miner/Yeti not w/w for those with doubts about Yeti.

Kid gloves for Owner, and then the big 'wtf are you doing Miner' post at 113. Been discussed, is wolfie af. Also some more Vira defense, which I'll just keep quoting without comment as I come across it.

OMGUS response to 113 agreeing with me that his post was wolfie. Miner not w/w with 113, which is an important thing to note for today

You mean your post is inherently BS! Boom.

Ahahaha. This is very good description of Miner's behaviour around reading a bunch of people, Cuth most notably. These you have it, Miner is scum according to Miner.

Sure it is. Why though?

Nonono. Miner's been townreading/defending Vira all day (see quoted above), and now he's saying "I would have totally voted Vira if only you'd answered me earlier, but now I guess I'll just have to lynch Kalas huh?"

"I didn't want this, but you guys gave me no choice."

End of D2
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Hey Dya, you, uh, may have been right about Scott/Owner being scum.

Please don't hate me.

 

Hey Jari, can you post a reads list?

 

Vote: miner

This needs to happen

(just saying, i thought he was scum early as well)

 

As a point of interest, what is Miner's deal with Fonti?

 

Miner ISO D3

Trouble with the Vira scumread, trouble with the Fonti scumread, despite not having stated a read on her, or talking about/with her at all except for putting her in his readslist as light town with no explanation.

???

tldr; "Yes, but..." (Also remember Miner would have totally voted Vira yesterday if not for tom not responding, while he ends D3 with a statement of protest against Vira because he's /so/ convinced she's town.)

I'm going to start including Fonti defense posts.

A couple of ??? posts.

Lol.

The vote lasted almost half an hour.

"He could be bussing Vira, but..."

Miner's really going all in on the 113 push.

"You can vote here." Not a post you make towards someone you think is scumbuddies with 113, but I think Miner's forgotten about that by now.

Same as above, although admittedly weak. You can still interact with people you think are scum. It's just that there's no caution/paranoia showing in his posts. He's not asking Vira question in return to try and figure her out at all.

Vira is his third strongest townread again. Also note how neither Vira nor Cuth gets their own read? Tied to Fable and Reg respectively. And Fonti is 100% null, nothing to say about her again. ???

He's voted Vira himself. He totally would have voted Vira yesterday if only tom had told him to. Oh no wait she's lock town and Miner has always thought that because scum wouldn't be so bold about townreading their buddy right?

End of D3

 

Did you ask me a question earlier or a question about me? Sorry if it was to me and I didnt reply