Explain how you feel newcomb is spewed?
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Also maybe explain how you think I could be a wolf when I put in everything I had to save your slot last night? I was legitimately very busy at EoD and could have just ignored Dya's mention if I were a wolf.

 

Cuth seemed to be pushing for newcomb pretty hard and Vira was shading them pretty hard too. Someone said there seemed to be sort of a shade campaign overall against them and I'm kind of inclined to agree? (Sorry dya this is my damn slot now.)

 

Spoiler: here's votals colored for Newcomb worlds, btw

Proph: Vaimes, tom, yeav
Koalas: Koalas, Proph
Tom: Miner
Dyachei: Fable
Miner: Vira
Vira: Scott

Miner: Vira, Newcomb, Revenant
Proph: Vaimes, Jarizok
Koalas: Koalas, Proph
Cuth: tom, SwedishSkumbag
Stanari: Scott, yeav
Zack: fonti, Stanari
Tom: Miner
Dyachei: Fable
Fable: Zack
Yeav: 0.113
Revenant: Cuth
.113: weiyaoli

Proph: Vaimes, Jarizok
Koalas: Koalas, Proph
Dyachei: Fable, yeav
Zack: fonti, Stanari
Fable: Zack, dyachei
Tom: Newcomb
Miner: Revenant
Stanari: Scott
Yeav: 0.113
Revenant: Cuth
Cuth: tom
Scott: Vira
GH: Swedish

GH: Swedish, Cuth, Stanari
Proph: Vaimes, Jarizok
Koalas: Koalas, Proph
Stanari: Scott, GH
Fonti: tom, yeav
Dyachei: Fable
Zack: fonti
Fable: dyachei
Tom: Newcomb
Miner: Revenant
Yeav: 0.113
Scott: Vira
Newcomb: Zack
.113: weiyaoli

Abstain: Tsaiah, Sooh, Miner

Vaimes: yeav, Stanari, Zack
Koalas: Koalas, Proph
Stanari: Scott, GH
GH: Swedish
Proph: Jarizok
Fonti: tom
Dyachei: Fable
Zack: fonti
Fable: dyachei
Tom: Newcomb
Miner: Revenant
Yeav: 0.113
Scott: Vira
.113: weiyaoli
Newcomb: Cuth
Cuth: Vaimes

Abstain: Tsaiah, Sooh, Miner

Cuthalion: Vaimes, tom, Newcomb, SwedishSkumbag
Koalas: Koalas, Prophylaxis, Fontisian
GeneralHandkerchief: Zack, yeavoxxtalknah, Stanari
Stanari: ScottPress, GeneralHandkerchief
Fonti: dyachei
Fable: Miner
Miner: Secondhand Revenant
yeavoxxtalknah: 0.113
ScottPress: Vira
.113: weiyaoli
Proph: Jarizok

Abstaining: Tsaiah, Jan, Cuthalion, Fable

Cuth: Vaimes, tom, Swedish, Newcomb, Jarizok, weiyaoli
Koalas: Koalas, Proph, fonti, Miner, yeav
GH: Zack, Stanari, Cuth, dyachei
Stanari: Scott, GH
Miner: Revenant
Jan: Fable

Abstain: Tsaiah, Jan, 0.113, Vira

GH: Zack, Stanari, Cuth, dyachei, Vira, Koalas
Cuth: Vaimes, tom, Swedish, Jarizok, weiyaoli
Koalas: Proph, fonti, Miner, yeav
Stanari: Scott, GH
Jan: Newcomb, Fable
113: Revenant

Abstain: Tsaiah, Jan, 0.113

Koalas: Proph, fonti, Miner, yeav, GH, Vaimes, 0.113
GH: Zack, Stanari, Cuth, dyachei, Vira, Koalas
Cuth: tom, Swedish, Jarizok, weiyaoli
Jan: Newcomb, Fable
Stanari: Scott
113: Revenant

Abstain: Tsaiah, Jan

GH: Zack, Stanari, Cuth, dyachei, Vira, Koalas, Fable, Revenant
Koalas: Proph, Miner, GH, Vaimes, 0.113, Swedish, fonti
Cuth: tom, weiyaoli
Proph: yeav, Jarizok
Jan: Newcomb
Stanari: Scott

Abstain: Tsaiah, Jan

GH: Zack, Stanari, Cuth, dyachei, Vira, Koalas, Fable, Revenant, Proph
Koalas: Miner, GH, Vaimes, 0.113, Swedish, fonti
Cuth: tom, weiyaoli
Proph: yeav, Jarizok
Jan: Newcomb
Stanari: Scott

Abstain: Tsaiah, Jan

GH: Zack, Stanari, Cuth, dyachei, Vira, Koalas, Fable, Revenant, Proph, Jarizok
Koalas: Miner, GH, Vaimes, 0.113, Swedish, fonti
Proph: yeav, tom
Cuth: weiyaoli
Jan: Newcomb
Stanari: Scott

Abstain: Tsaiah, Jan

GH: Zack, Stanari, Cuth, dyachei, Vira, Koalas, Fable, Revenant, Proph, Jarizok, Newcomb
Koalas: Miner, GH, Vaimes, 0.113, Swedish, fonti
Proph: yeav, tom
Cuth: weiyaoli
Stanari: Scott

Abstain: Tsaiah, Jan

GH: Zack, Stanari, Cuth, dyachei, Vira, Koalas, Fable, Revenant, Proph, Jarizok, Newcomb, fonti
Koalas: Miner, GH, Vaimes, 0.113, Swedish
Proph: yeav, tom
Cuth: weiyaoli
Stanari: Scott

Abstain: Tsaiah, Jan

GH: Zack, Stanari, Cuth, dyachei, Vira, Koalas, Fable, Revenant, Proph, Jarizok, Newcomb, fonti, yeav, Tsaiah
Koalas: Miner, GH, Vaimes, 0.113, Swedish
Proph: tom
Cuth: weiyaoli
Stanari: Scott

Abstain: Jan

Koalas: Vaimes, Revenant, Vira
Yeti: tom, Cuth, dyachei
Cuth: Yeti, Koalas
Vira: Zack, Jarizok
Revenant: 0.113, Stanari
Newcomb: Fonti

Abstaining: Fable, weiyaoli, Tsaiah, Scott, Jan, Miner, Newcomb

Revenant: 0.113, Stanari, tom, Newcomb, Zack, Fonti
Koalas: Revenant, Vira, Fable
Yeti: dyachei, Miner
Cuth: Yeti, Koalas
tom: Jarizok
Newcomb: Vaimes
Zack: owner

Abstaining: weiyaoli, Tsaiah, Jan, Cuth

Koalas: Revenant, Vira, Fable, Jan, weiyaoli, Jarizok, Cuth
Revenant: 0.113, Stanari, tom, Newcomb, Zack, Fonti
Cuth: Koalas
.113: Miner
Newcomb: Vaimes
Zack: owner
miner: dyachei

Abstaining: Tsaiah

Koalas: Revenant, Vira, Jan, weiyaoli, Jarizok, Cuth, Fonti, dyachei
Revenant: 0.113, Stanari, tom, Newcomb, Zack, Fable
Cuth: Koalas
.113: Miner
Newcomb: Vaimes
Zack: owner

Koalas: Revenant, Vira, Jan, weiyaoli, Jarizok, Cuth, Fonti, dyachei, Vaimes
Revenant: 0.113, Stanari, tom, Newcomb, Zack, Fable
Cuth: Koalas
.113: Miner
Zack: owner

Abstaining: Tsaiah, Yeti

Koalas: Revenant, Vira, Jan, weiyaoli, Jarizok, Cuth, Fonti, dyachei, Vaimes
Revenant: 0.113, Stanari, Newcomb, Zack, Fable
Vira: tom, Yeti, Koalas
.113: Miner
Zack: owner

Abstaining: Tsaiah

Koalas: Revenant, Vira, Jan, weiyaoli, Jarizok, Cuth, Fonti, dyachei
Revenant: 0.113, Stanari, Newcomb, Zack, Fable, tom, Vaimes
Vira: Yeti, Koalas
.113: Miner
Zack: owner

Abstaining: Tsaiah

Koalas: Revenant, Vira, Jan, weiyaoli, Jarizok, Cuth, Fonti, dyachei, tom, miner, vaimes, tsaiah, Yeti
Revenant: 0.113, Stanari, Newcomb, Zack, Fable
Vira: Koalas
Zack: owner

Vira: 0.113, Vaimes, Fontisian, Weiyaoli
Jarizok: Vira, Stanari, Fable
Yeti: Dyachei, Owner
Newcomb: Cuthalion
Fontisian: Jarizok
.113: Miner

Abstaining: Newcomb, Regfan, Tsaiah, Yeti

Vira: 0.113, Vaimes, Fontisian, Weiyaoli, Regfan, Cuthalion, Stanari
Fontisian: Yeti, Fable, Jarizok
.113: Miner, Dyachei
Yeti: Owner
Jarizok: Vira

Abstaining: Newcomb, Tsaiah

Vira: 0.113, Vaimes, Fontisian, Weiyaoli, Regfan, Cuthalion, Stanari, Jarizok, Dyachei
Fontisian: Yeti, Fable
.113: Miner
Yeti: Owner
Jarizok: Vira

Abstaining: Newcomb, Tsaiah

Vira: 0.113, Vaimes, Fontisian, Weiyaoli, Regfan, Cuthalion, Stanari, Jarizok, Dyachei, Yeti
Jarizok: Vira, Newcomb
0.113: Miner
Fontisian: Fable
Yeti: Owner

Abstaining: Tsaiah

Vira: 0.113, Vaimes, Fontisian, Weiyaoli, Regfan, Cuthalion, Stanari, Jarizok, Dyachei, Yeti, Tsaiah, Newcomb
Jarizok: Vira
0.113: Miner
Fontisian: Fable
Yeti: Owner

113: Vaimes, Stanari, Dya
Fable: Fable

Not Voting: 113, Cuth, Font, Jari, Miner, Newcomb, Owner, Wei, Yeti

113: Vaimes, Stanari, Dya, Owner
Fable: Fable
Jari: Miner
Newcomb: 113
Cuth: Jari

Not Voting: Cuth, Font, Newcomb, Wei, Yeti

113: Vaimes, Owner, Miner
Cuth: Jari, Stanari, Font
Fable: Fable
Newcomb: 113
Owner: Dya

Not Voting: Cuth, Newcomb, Wei, Yeti

113: Vaimes, Owner, Miner
Miner: Yeti, 113, Jari
Cuth: Stanari, Font
Fable: Fable
Owner: Dya

Not Voting: Cuth, Newcomb, Wei

Owner: Dya, Font, Fable, Vaimes
113: Owner, Miner, Newcomb
Miner: Yeti, 113, Jari
Cuth: Stanari

Not Voting: Cuth, Shadow

Owner: Dya, Font, Fable, Vaimes, Stanari
Miner: Yeti, 113, Jari, Cuth
113: Owner, Miner, Newcomb

Not Voting: Shadow

Owner: Dya, Font, Fable, Vaimes, Stanari
Miner: Yeti, 113, Jari, Cuth
113: Owner, Miner, Newcomb

Not Voting: Shadow

Owner: Dya, Font, Fable, Vaimes, Stanari, Newcomb
Miner: Yeti, 113, Jari, Cuth
113: Owner, Miner

Not Voting: Shadow

Owner: Dya, Font, Fable, Vaimes, Stanari, Newcomb
Miner: Yeti, 113, Jari, Cuth
113: Owner, Miner

Not Voting: Shadow

Miner: Yeti, 113, Jari, Cuth, Dya, Fonti, Stanari, Vaimes, Fable
113: Owner, Miner
Owner: Newcomb

Abstaining: Shadow

Owner: Satan, Dyachei, Vaimes, Fontisian, Cuthalion, Fable, Jarizok, 0.113, Shadowlancerx
Cuthalion: Owner

Abstaining: Newcomb

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Oh also re: Newcomb shade campaign - I think for D2 there were some townies doing it too but after that it was mostly scum? Should probably check that. Actually I should probably do a lot of things that aren't flailing wildly through scum isos.

If anyone finds themselves with a ton of time on their hands, I would appreciate help finding vote chronology around the Cuth wagon, and also mass readlists from D2.

 

No particular reason, you can be town too, that's fine.

 

So it's just shadow and we did it?

 

Sure!

 

@Stanari you want all readlists from d2?

 

Yes, but only ones that include a majority of living players/overview type posts.

 

Well I have Tom's lying around so here's that one.

Fable lacks agenda
Stanari really genuine process
Wei just makes good posts about good things
Zack i like the way his reads sort of flow with whats happening
Fonti had the best eod and should lead us to victory
Vaimes is delightful
Miner lacks caution
Owner is null, scott was townie
Tsaiah is happy to be here
Newcomb has an agenda but it could be the right one
jari/dya/jan/113 are just a series of shrugs and sighs
Yeti is working herself into shape but ss was scummy
Vira bad readslist, weird approach
Koalas had a shit claim and hasnt towned it up at all. Feel like hed be in here making a fuss as town pr.
Cuth isnt solving, is reaching, and fits a lot of worlds.
SR has made a handful of posts that I just react to viscerally. He often looks like he knows more than I do.

 

I actually have that one lying around somewhere too lol.
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Something something spewed town.

 

Explain the bolded, please.
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I'm really confused as to what parts of the game you've read.

 

Poll: is this Cuth talking about a partner?

Actually hmm. Where does he pivot to a townread on her?

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If I have more than 1k posts does that make it impossible to properly iso me? Let's find out.

 

Only the previous day and any posts from previous days quoted within.

 

I was really hoping for something more useful here but lol me and dya so clear.
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Reading Cuth and this so much.
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IDK it looked like Cuth was trying to V read all his partners so probably doesn't look the greatest for fonti, newcomb looks slightly better because of it I guess.
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Might be easier to just have fonti, shadow, and newcomb do their best to be villagery today and lynch whoever does the worst instead of trying to read spew.

 

No. He was only willing to lightly townread his partners, without really defending them. He hard townread me, for several days straight, which, if you remember, was part of why I was voting for him instead of, you know, pushing a dya swap at the last minute. You can say "rule of 3 +) and that I was the one mafia in his strong townreads, but otherwise, just no.
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Fable, you need to flesh out your dya read Today.
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My impression was that Cuth avoided talking about his partners ^
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Reason #376 that Stanari is town.
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Noting this.

Willing to talk to other people about partners.
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^Not how Cuth would talk about a partner.
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Looking at his iso, this pretty much dropped out of nowhere.
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#rule of 3
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Uh. This kind of feels like backing off a partner. But. It's a really bad bus? Almost too bad to be one from Cuth. I'd expect him to like, drop /some/ logic and maybe posture a bit? I don't know.

Here's the post where Cuth townread me @Stanari. You'll note that he did it as I was in the middle of questioning him about his kalas read.

 

That's copypasta btw.

 

I think Fable freaking out of the read thing probably means he's town, plus dya read. There's just a niggling doubt there about how it's similar to his fight with Zen in another game, in that he likes to jump on unalignment things with teammates and be over the top. I think he would have encouraged cuth to push back, though, instead of being conciliatory.
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I hate you all.
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Directed to miner. Humm. Feels like he's poking a teammate here about a read he knows to be tmi.

 

I'm still town though!

 

Readslist. Flipped alignments colored.

Cuth was willing to strongly townread Scott, but I think that was because it was thread consensus at the time.

The miner should reread thing is also something he said a couple times about newcomb iirc.