Lindsey: Most likely town. First derp was honest derp.

coleam: most likely scum. Your posts are reading way different from how you post in Werewolf and you're pushing really hard for a lynch on me because I'm posting a lot on a day that has nearly no use for the town except for shits and giggles.

Sacrifice: His posts contribute about as much as my poll posts did. History of contributing very little to a discussion in mafia games. Played 2 games prior, so such a major derp so early is jarring. Tends to know the roles well, based on how he acted in Gotham early days.

Stojil: Most likely town. Likes to hold cards close to chest. No long posts yet, so likely not in communication with anyone because his tendency to make seemingly post-hoc conclusions though it's really the results from QT chats, hasn't shown.

Castiel + Ash: No read. They tend to mess around early on, though not to the level I did this game. If Ash is scum, she will become a lot more dangerous at the end, as Castiel and dhulli tend to white knight her.

Aekiel: Potential scum. Stojil caught that slip, and he's inferring too much that people will automatically default to his view. Few people in last Dresden caught on to how strong certain roles were, and we have 7~ new Dresden players this round. Assumption is most likely a larger scum QT: Denarian, Red, or White. He has some sort of backing.

Schrodinger: First person to jump on scum bandwagon at first chance possible, even though he says he observed Dresden, so he knows exactly WTF I was referring to being ticked off with that game.

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There. Some of the reads I have so far from my "useless" poll and derping around.

 

"First person to jump on scum bandwagon at first chance possible?"
Now I know you're grasping for straws. Six people voted for you before me: the first vote more than ten hours before me. What the fuck are you even saying?
it looks to me like you're either attempting to divide the vote, cast doubt onto multiple people, establish yourself as an authority, or save your own skin at the expense of others... all of which are scum actions. Fuck gut feelings, you're reading scum as hell to me.

 

Or it could be that I regret not acting on my initial gut calls in Werewolf, which were correct. If I'd pushed harder for a lynch on Schrodinger on day 2, town might actually have won.

All gained from metagaming and random posts that had nothing to do with your Mayor vote. Well, except for your analysis of me, which is still mostly metagaming.

 

I've got to agree with Schro, Evan's post is giving me much more of a vet scum feel then a town read one.

Deadline Vote: Evan Tide

I'm off for the night, I'll try and check back before days end but that'll entirely depend on how late I'm out tonight.

 

TOTAL REQUIRED VOTES TO LYNCH A PLAYER: 15

TIME TILL NIGHTTIME: 3:37

VOTES:
9 Votes To Lynch Evan Tide-
D. Riley
D. Seratin
D. Aekiel
D. Eternity Lost
D. Castiel
D. Moridin
D. Schrodinger
L. coleam
D. Kalas

5 Votes To Lynch Sacrifice-
L. Zennith
D. Evan Tide
L. NobleFiction
D. Aziraphale
L. guljons

 

Well fuck we have to lynch so I guess we go to Evan

Rescind Vote
Deadline Lynch Vote: EvanTide

 

1) Because there's a SCUM TELL vs GUT FEELING vote. Yes, I'm going to freaking call the scum tell one out instead of having people go for gut feeling. It's called bandwagon mentality, you idiot.

There is ZERO methods to stop a band wagon on first day unless people READ the damn posts and actually kill the logically instead of shitty feelings.

2) Because those are my readings and coleam wanted me to prove my point, you moron? All the "scum tells" you're picking up are from me answering fucking questions people keep slinging at me, saying "why the hell did you do this if you aren't scum"

3) Authority? What authority? Because I ASKED for SotK's permission to run a mini-game?


You're reading as scum to me even more because of your stupid bandwagoning. Literally all of your posts have been "herp, he answered. Let me use it to bury him more".

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Hell, all of the people voting AGAINST me are basically going the "More defense = definitely scum"

It's like there isn't someone asking for a no-lynch day one, which is even more of a scum tell.

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You mean the posts Sac, Schro, and you made, which are all in response to mine?

Awesome point, man. I obviously didn't get reads off 1/2 the people on my list.

 

I'll be up watching NFL, so if a vote will be needed to get a lynch I will change.
But for what it is worth I still think Sacrifice should be the one lynched today.
Just look at this

First he forgets Denarians when we talked about them earlier. Then he says that there less than 50% chance of hitting scum as it is a bad thing when in reality it is a really good percentage. After that he tries to frighten us by hitting Dresden, but this is a possibility in every game.

 

I don't know about Sacrifice being scum as it could have been an honest mistake. Many other games you don't really need a first-day lynch, as night time is not as devastating as it is here. The Denarian slip could be connected to this, but it makes me more wary of Sacrifice. I don't want to lynch someone on them just making an honest mistake.

Evan Tide didn't seem scummy to me until he became insanely defensive, as if he does have an important scummy role and he is trying to hide it. It could be that he has a powerful townie role, but the ratio of powerful bad outweighs powerful good.

I rather lynch tonight than not, as the town is much weaker in this game than the previous. We can't afford not to lynch.

Deadline Vote: Evan Tide

 

Because there is literally zero chance of killing a bandwagon. Your entire reasoning goes along with this.

Have you even SEEN how it went?

Literally this:

I dick around.
Schrodinger calls me scum
I mess around some more
Seratin votes based on feeling
Castiel bandwagons
Coleam votes based on feeling
Next 2 people also join based on feeling

I wake up and see this shit going on, and explain what I'm trying to do.

People call that being "over defensive" for no reason, and make every explanation I give = "Could be hiding more scum shit" or " I voted already, don't want to rescind".

More people add on, citing my explanations as part of some grand scum scheme when I'm ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS people keep throwing at me on why I'm doing the mayor vote.

And now your vote, because the bandwagon has snowballed to the point where no one can stop it.


And everyone says Sac made an honest mistake, when he has played 2 other games and pretty much always knows his roles really well. Obviously, there's nothing wrong with it, must be a guaranteed error.

Hell, it's Stojil from last game all over again. Game would have definitely turned out so well if he died day 1 or 2 because of "gut feelings" instead of people actually thinking it out.

 

No. My scum tell was when you posted a list of people and attempted to come up with bullshit excuses why they're guilty, and when I *called you on it*, you totally ignored it.

See above. That kind of listmaking is a classic attempt to make yourself look as a carefully-analyzing townie, and while I might believe it later in game, here its just, as I said above, you "either attempting to divide the vote, cast doubt onto multiple people, establish yourself as an authority, or save your own skin at the expense of others"

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ninja'd, fuck, give me a sec

 

You mean me stating MY READINGS when coleam literally said I had nothing from my dicking around?

Are you kidding... It's not even a private list. It's literally a copy and paste of free info that anyone can get. I'm posting it, because, even now as close to deadline as we are, there are still multiple lurkers. Hell; you and coleam only came out to accuse me. That's why you two are so suspicious to me. You're both literally jumping on anything and everything just to get a lynch off.

 

Jon, Zennith, and Eternity Lost all called you on looking scummy before I did.

 

And yet, they aren't the ones STILL calling it after I explained it. You are.

 

*facepalm* When I say "Ninja'd, give me a sec" how about giving me a second to figure out what your ninja post is saying?

That's not what I'm saying at all, are you stupid? I'm saying that that sort of behavior, creating lists of who you suspect and why you suspect them, is a classic move that townies use in order to make themselves look more townie, and scum use a) for the same purpose and b) to throw suspicion on other people. You're certainly coming off as the latter.

 

Yeah, I'm not getting any more of a good sense from you than I was last time, Evan, and several posts have pointed against you at this point. You more or less put the gun to your own head by trying to claim a Stojil defense, knowing it might raise some doubt within us.

I'd rather take the risk and get the lynch in at this point than let a potential heavy-hitting scum gain a night to wreck havoc, and it's a hell of a lot harder to prove innocence when we can't just c/p from a QT, so your attempt at defense actually might have held some merit to it.

Deadline Vote: Evan Tide

 

And you're *still* doing it.

 

And you trying to start a bandwagon within the first 3 hours doesn't?

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It doesn't matter matter since I have nothing in my QT anyways. Again, Day 1 lynch. All jump on bandwagon, even though there are tells already from other players.

And before you even voted, and others jumped on the wagon, we had more than enough votes to not stall. Now? Still time, but the wagon's already going at 100 MPH.

 

I didn't try to start a bandwagon, I (not even first) judged your post as scummy and said so.
Now, since you're continually ignoring it, could you kindly explain to me what you meant when you said I was the first to jump on the scum bandwagon when, as I said, six people voted for you before me and the first vote was more than ten hours before mine?

 

You're the first one to keep calling me scum. You didn't vote first, but you sure did get others to start with it.