They might be names made out of other names. 7 words to make a woman love you. The name of love might be composed of 7 other names.

 

Maybe this is not strictly related to the books, but there's no other place I can post it.

It's the first entry for the second photo contest that Rothfuss organizes. Look at the comments, they are as or more awesome than the post itself.

 

Yeah, whoever those guys are they're pretty awesome.

 

An one of them is Taure too! Now, that's a coincidence.

 

Alright so I'm curious as to what the odds are of us seeing certain people from the books again. Like peripheral characters from tNotW and WMF reappearing in the third book. These character are obvioulsy outside the main cast of people we see at the University like Sim, Wil, Fela, Mola, Devi, the Masters, Ambrose, etc.

Skarpi(sp?) seems to be a guarantee, from his appearance in tNotW and from what Chronicler mentioned of him in real time. (100%)

The Adem are a real toss up in my opinion. I don't know if we can expect to see all of them again or none. Does he go back to Admere to maybe drop off his sword, passing through on a journey, etc. Or will it be a random run in with someone somewhere in the commonwealth or Vintas. And is it going to be a friend (Tempi, Penthe, Vashet) or not so friendly like Carceret. Besides there is still some unfinished business with the Adem concerning Kvothe's deep name. (Tempi 10%, Penthe 45%, Vashet 70%, Magwyn 30%, Shehyn 40%, Carceret 70%, Celean 10%)

As for the Maer and his court I am equally unsure of. I would like to think we get to see Meluan realize the ravel Ruh who helped win her heart for the Maer was also her bastard nephew. She would also be the best bet for Kvothe to get a hold of the Loeclos(sp?) box. Otherwise I don't know who else would be worthwhile glimpsing again, perhaps the Maer by association and Stapes likewise, but I have a feeling the Maer won't live out the series. He is too powerful of a friend for Kvothe to keep. Now Caudicus is just kind of my gut feeling. It's never explicitly stated that he was killed. And I'm still curious as to if that poisoning was just a dead end plot or something deeper. That just leaves Bredon, but considering I'm all but positive he is Denna's patron that isn't unexpected. (Meluan 95%, Maer 60%, Caudicus 40%, Stapes 70%, Bredon 100%)

Lastly I think we'll see the ranger skiv from tNotW again. He's talking to Wil outside the Tomes, all dressed in leathers with a sword to match him. I'd like to see more of him, as I always forget he's there until I reread that short scene. I don't know when or why but he'll play some sort of role. (95%)

As the Seven are our main protaganist thus far it's safe to assume we'll get a glimpse of them before this is over as well.

Anybody I'm missing? Or anybody I said whom won't reappear in Kvothe's story? I'm pretty sure we won't see Dedan, Marten or Hespe again. This may be an exercise of futility but I'm genuinely curious.

Rereading, my estimates concerning the Adem might be a tad low.

 

What kind of numerology are you using to divine these amazingly precise figures?

Anyway, amusing snippet from Pat's blog:

 

Ben is also guaranteed to make a return, based on a line in The Name of the Wind, saying that he would not see him for many years.

Also, not sure if it has been mentioned here, but Master Ash is almost definitely Cinder. The name itself is something of a giveaway, considering Kvothe's odd talent for naming, such as when he identified the dyed horse in TNotW. Also, the Cthaeh mentions that Denna's patron had started to beat her with a cane, which was new i.e. after Cinder got an arrow in the leg.

And as for some pure speculation on my part, Kvothe's Adem name meaning the Broken Tree, will refer to his ability to either kill the Cthaeh or overcome its prophetic doom.

 

The arrow in the leg equaling cane is interesting, but I still find to many parallels between Bredon and Master Ash. Leaving town at the same time, dancing, Maer's court, etc.

And Taure, as for my number juggling, I created a complex series of numeral matrices, concerning Kvothe's exploits, known and hinted at, Ran a string around and across my room in a freakishly detailed timeline compiling data all along... or I went completely on my gut feeling. Yeah- the second one.

 

The Broken Tree could just as easily have to do with Kvothe representing a break in the family lineage or tree, or his eventual king-killing doing the same. I like your idea better though. I don't think Master Ash is Cinder. From what we've seen of Cinder he is brash, arrogant, a bastard, and somewhat incapable of the kind of discretion we've seen from Master Ash. Bredon is a better fit.

 

Interesting thought. Puppet is allowed candles because he knows the name of fire. Kilvin says there are a couple of people besides Elodin who know the name of fire. Maybe puppet is allowed them because he could control the fire if there was an accident.

 

I may just be an idiot for never noticing this but....

Way back at the end of NotW when Elodin finds Kvothe in Kilvins office after he used the name of the wind. Elodin has Kvothe say "Aerlevsedi" and Simmon says "what? Wind?"

Aerlevsedi is the name of the wind. Kvothe could hear it because his sleeping mind was awake. Simmon couldn't because his wasn't like when Elxa Dal uses the name of fire and Kvothe hears "fire" in WMF.

I may be the only one stupid enough to have completely missed this the first 5000 reads. Or not so thought I would bring it up.

 

Yep, though from what I gather, there are subtle variations. IIRC the books often mention how the name of something like the wind changes from place to place, don't they?

Maybe it's not too different from "True Names," in the Dresdenverse, with regard to those sutbleties. That is, the basic word might be more or less the same everywhere, but with variations in pronunciation, cadence, etc.

 

The Everchanging Name of the Wind is supposed to be different from place to place, so the Name in that square at the University would be different to the Name up in the Ademre village.

 

If I recall correctly, Exla Dal was surprised that Kvothe heard anything at all when he spoke the name of Fire. It's possible that Sim has a bit of Naming talent as well. But Aekiel and Blazzano are correct, the name of the wind changes.

The last book is going to have to be massive if it wants to wrap up every single mystery glimpsed so far in the story. There are so many questions left I don't know how Rothfuss can give answers to them all (assuming he even plans to) in just one more book.

 

It changes but Elodin knows how to see how it changes from place to place.

 

How I understand it, one who knows a name can do that with those names, but others can still say names like Kvothe who has as we remember 10 rings but we only know two of them do not represent names.

 

Well I'd bet my life savings and one of two testicles that this is not the final book in this universe. The next series may not center around Kvothe or Kote or whatever (though I'd be suprised if he PR can find a more or even equally charismatic main character) but there seems to be just as many questions left in the present as there are mysteries in the past.

 

Actually, Elodin says rings worn in the right hand mean something else, so unless Kvothe doesn't stick to this 'rule', we can't suppose he knows the names of stone, iron, amber, wood or bone. He might know those or other names, though, since he can only wear five rings that represent the names he knows. (Does anyone have a theory on what the 'ring without name' represents?)

Just for reference:

and

And about the future of this universe, I'd like to read about what will happen when Kvothe 'remembers' who he is (if he does). If he doesn't, then I trust Rothfuss won't just abandon the world he's created, because I believe it definitely has a lot of potential to explore.

 

Except we already know where the wood and bone rings come from.

 

Wait, what did I miss? I always got the vibe that the name of the wind changes in its pronunciations/intonations. That's why Simmon heard only the word 'wind', but not the inflections which will actually Name the Wind.

Not going back to re-read, so... did I totally miss some passage in the books which refutes this?