Auri when she gave kvothe a key said it unlocked the moon. Does anyone else think that is important? I am going to search and find just what else she has givern him, and what she said to him?

 

I keep on viewing this thread on the front page and seeing:

Soooo...
When did Rothfuss change his name?

 

I like to get feed back on random ideas my head makes, so sue me.

I made a post about a small little theory I had.

The archives have a saying on the front,
VARFELON RHINNATA MORIE
, so I bet this is another link to the amyr theory.
Atur is filled with stories about demons, as they had an order dedicated to their hunting, the amyr. So the reason why demons are feared as they were dealt with by the order.
I wonder who created those barrow creatures and shamble men? THe nameless and scraedyne are all threats, so hunted by the order.
All demons and evil creations of magic will all lead back to that creature in the tree.

In the first book, there was another lackless mentiones, I think it was meluans father, what happened to him?

 

You misunderstand. He was joking that when glancing at the screen this thread would say "The Wise Man's Fear by syed"

Instead of "by Patrick Rothfuss"

No need to take it personally man.


As a side note, that's the first time I've seen you directly responding to a person. Normally you keep rambling on in a way that makes me know you read what other people said, but that's not really a response.

 

The anticipation for the third book, for me at least, is probably some of the worst I've ever had. I don't think I was ever this excited for Christmas or my birthday when I was a kid, hell I don't think I was this excited waiting for the next HP book to come out.

 

I haven't wasted my time with anticipation yet, as I'm still expecting it to be over 2 years away.

 

I know what you mean, there are plenty of books I am waiting to come out, but this one is especially drawing. I think the whole way it is written, the whole incompleteness of it, makes it so people want to keep reading to find out what is next.

Did anyone notice that "Kote" means destruction?

The four plate door in the archives, we all assumed it led to a singular destination, but what if instead of 4 keys needed to open the door, the key hole used determines where the door leads to?

Spoiler

Auri gave him a key to unlock the moon, while the coin she gives him will protect him at night. She also gave him a wooden ring, it fit perfectly, and was warm and smooth, said to keep secrets. SHe also made him a candle that smelled of lavender.
THe moon sort of binds the Fae realm to this one, the moon affects how they and us can travel, via the way stones. SO I wonder if this key allows travel via the dark paths, which the coin gives protection. At the start Kvothe said he walked the dark paths. THese dark paths at night using moonlight, so I wonder if the candle glowed with moon light. Mortals fear a moonless night, so a candle giving moonlight would be great.
THe ring if magical, to keep secrets, I wonder if it ensures no one can see or discern his name so have power over him.

There seems to be some thing important about candles. Taborlin had one, one is mentioned in both lockless poems, kvothe got one as a gift and the picture of the lord of the chandrian, had 2 candles in it.

THe Chandrian, apart from their Lord dont seem to have active magic, sure very hard to kill, and very ancient, but I dont think they are namers or shapers? It is said they were traitors to the cities of the empire, but the guardians of those cities believed in the power of arms. SO they are simply very hard to kill, protected by the power of their lord. I wonder if each of the seven have a sign, could they each have a specific weakness that is sure to kill them. Their lord is bound by his name, but the 6 materials known to harm creatures, could harm the other chandrin. Obsidian, iron, copper, ash, elm and rowan can harm demons apparently.

THat skin walker, one of the words it said was "RHINTAE", so makes me think it is linked to the others.


In the first book, there was another lackless mentiones, I think it was meluans father, what happened to him?

I wonder why Kvothe never built a tracker to allow him to find Denna, or Denna to find him?

I thought the book was coming out next year?

THe college was built on an ancient university, possibly one of those ancient cities. I wonder if namers and shapers once studied there? I bet there is an ever burning lamp deep in the under thing.

If Illien is known to the fae, I wonder if that worldless and complex tune is something special?

Denna was talking about this magic where things were written and people could be changed, I bet they were shaped. I think the magic she was talking about was shaping, so lends the idea that her patron is one of the chandrin. I bet they have some of her blood which is why she was shaken by the wine demonstration.

WHen talking about the names kvothe has learned, amber does not seem that important to learn. What is so unique about it? There have been references to amber before, so does it mean its a real name, or rumor?
I wonder if kvothe will get a sining leaf from those distant tress?

 

Someone mentioned Jo Walton's re-read of the series but didn't provide a link

http://www.tor.com/features/series/patrick-rothfuss-reread

There you go. I've been going though this (I'm halfway through the WMF stuff right now) and there is a lot of good stuff. Some things are definitely way off the mark, but it's interesting.

 

Aaaaaand Rothfuss signs a book deal for a second trilogy.

http://aidanmoher.com/blog/2012/09/asides/patrick-rothfuss-sells-new-trilogy-to-daw-books/

 

Not so sure about the whole "second" trilogy part, despite what the author of that article says. The sale being described as "the first book in a new fantasy series” makes it sound like it doesn't have anything to do with Kingkiller Chronicles to me.

That said, still good to hear. This new trilogy should be a good read regardless... in 10-15 years or so, at Rothfuss' current rate.

 

Regardless of whether or not it's connected to Kingkiller (which I believe it is), it's still his second trilogy.

 

I just can't bring myself to get excited about something that in all probability is at least 6 years away.

Good news regardless though.

 

SO once the new book has come out, this thread will become a discussion on the new trilogy, what needs to be seen in the continuation.

If the next trilogy will finish kvothe tale, what will be in the new book and what will be in the proposed trilogy.#
Doors of stone-
death of a king
meeting bast and his group of the fae
finding a source of that special wood his thrice locked chest is made of
learning how to make those lockless boxes
visit ben abernathy
why does he have folly instead of his adem born sword
encountering teh amyr
university expulsion
achieving ten naming rings
death of at least one chandrian
save a princess from the undead
loss of his magic
the reason why he is not with denna

future trilogy-
death of the chandrian
end of the war
regain access to the archives and facilities of the university
opening the lockless door and box
opening the 4 copper plated door
finding the truth of the moon and iax
regain magic and music
find denna

 

Someone in that re-read I linked pointed out that technically he has been expelled (when he first called the wind). But I think he will be expelled for good in the 3rd book.

The 10 naming rings, I honestly think that's just part of the mythology around Kvothe and not completely real. I bet a few turn out to be real but most turn out to be made up stories.

 

If they think he is dead, that means he some how publicly faked his death, it would probably be very cool, he is big on showmanship. It had to be before the loss of his magic.

THE ten rings are: Stone, iron, amber, wood, bone, air/wind, blood, fire, ice/water, and unknown. They are all a form of material or matter, I doubt the name of a being can be made into a ring. The nameless ring, what if the substance had its name removed, names can change why not taken away. It would then make the material a great weapon against namers. It could even represent copper, as mention later there is a connection to magic. The rings are only signs to show other namers, that you have gained power, who knows what other names Kvothe has used similar to felurian.
Each ring would be a sign of power, so able to show your have names could help Kvothe be accepted as a master namer and El'the of the university. The university was originally a place dedicated to naming, so showing the ability to call upon multiple names, would allow him access to ELodin's personal library and many of the univerty secrets and restricted lore, including the four copper plated door. That has to be a naming secret.
Would air and wind be basically the same,correct, the same for water and ice?
I wonder why iron specificly, why not simply metal, sure iron is bane to things that were shaped, but still, I wonder why no metal name is mentioned. Iron would be great against weapons and the fae, it makes me wonder why there is not copper?
SInce copper is mentioned and seen alot, it makes us wonder why there is no name. Copper was used in asylum, and the taborlin had a copper sword, so it seems important.
Blood and bone seem important for healing and shaping life. We know there are runes for these, so great for magic.
In the story, they have mentioned a magic amber ring, so potentially it's not real, but as amber is from woods, and there are ash and elm, great against creatures, could be a weapon.

I wonder why no lightning ring, Taborlin summoned lightning, why not others?

 

I don't think the rings are designed to show anyone what Names you have, least of all other Namers.

Remember at the end of Wise Man's Fear, Elodin was able to believe that Kvothe had already made a ring of air - which means that if Kvothe had done such a thing, Elodin wouldn't be able to tell.

Moreover, we know that it remains convention to not share what Names you know - and in the older days of the University, it was absolutely not done.

 

SO they are not signs to others, but simply a sign to your self. You called up a name at want, instead of need and used itto fashion an object to your desires.
Also, that was in the old days, Kvothe intentionally puts on a show, to build a reputation to ensure people tread carefully with him

 

It's possible, I think, that the rings are more than just status symbols. Maybe they have use.

 

What? Mind re-phrasing this?

Rothfuss mentioned somewhere that a copper sword is a great weapon to use against a Namer. That implies to me that copper is somehow immune to naming magic, rather than what I suggested earlier (that copper was used to confine Elodin because it happens to be that he doesn't know it's name).

 

Maybe copper, for some reason, has no Name.

Hmm. Maybe the Name of copper is locked away somewhere.