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Complete To Fight the Coming Darkness by jbern - T

Discussion in 'General Fics' started by cmuylistoooo, Dec 22, 2005.

  1. Dark Lord Rostam

    Dark Lord Rostam Button La Famiglia Midknight

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    Hermione is too proud to let Harry do that.
     
  2. Nukular Winter

    Nukular Winter The Chosen One DLP Supporter

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    Not quite. Rufus (with Harry's help) only managed to become Interim Minister because of some shenanigans that neutralized a majority of the opposition votes (and only for that meeting).

    I don't expect that if the vote were held again that the results would be the same.

    Err, you think that if Harry were to make liberal use of his money and influence to "help [Hermione] be known" that there's any way that she wouldn't forever be regarded as "Harry's project?"

    To coin a JBern phrase from this story, "Can you even smell the shit you're shoveling?" ;)

    -Sean
     
  3. madeyemoody

    madeyemoody High Inquisitor

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    This story is brilliant for several reasons which are to numerable to list

    but my # 1 reason for liking this story is the title/chapter names.............you know who jethro tull is, a rare thing in this day and age of crap music

    madeyemoody
     
  4. Darius

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    Lol

    Interim Minister for 2 years. He will probably b reelected if he doesn't piss Harry off.

    Your right about the Hermione thing but I think that she still could be succesful in politics after the war is over because the JBern's going there will be no Pureblood superiorty complexed aristocrats left and politics will be more open.

    She would have a tougher time but even with how biased wizards are they can only ignore results for so long.
     
  5. Ragon

    Ragon Dark Lord

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    Just to clarify things. Ron will always been in Harry's shadow unless he makes a name for himself simply because ITS HARRY BLOODY POTTER. Harry is the heir to an old noble family, he is powerful, he is the boy-who-lived, and will mostly kill voldemort. Ron will have to make a name for himself or be content with "Hey your Harry Potter's friend right? Whats your name again?"
     
  6. redviking1983

    redviking1983 First Year

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    Some of you are missing my point about Harry and Hermione...

    Yes, Hermione would likely be in Harry's shadow for a while. BUT, unlike Ron, once Voldie is dead Harry is going to WANT to fade away into obscurity. Leaving Hermione free to make what she wants for herself. Harry hates politics and fame and reconigition, Hermione doesn't.
     
  7. Nukular Winter

    Nukular Winter The Chosen One DLP Supporter

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    We seem to be talking at cross purposes.

    In the story, Hermione said flat out that:

    a) She wants to make a name for herself, and
    b) If she was with Harry she'd never get out of his shadow

    You have yet to make a single decent argument refuting point (b) -- Harry's going to "fade into obscurity?" O RLY? With a wife (Hermione, in your world) that's trying to become famous? How well do you think that's going to work? How could that possibly work?

    (Seriously, you don't seem to be considering the endgame at all)
     
  8. ChuckDaTruck

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    Yeah! What he said! ;)
     
  9. Ragon

    Ragon Dark Lord

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    Okay back to the fic.


    So Jim but after i read it again I gotta say this isnt my favorite chapter, but thats probably because I wanted Abbott to get his asskicked. I just didnt really like this chapter. But however still loved the fic.

    5/5 overall
     
  10. jbern

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    Well lets see. Lots of stuff going on in the thread. One of the things I have enjoyed most about writing this story is to take a character or a cliche and spin it on it's ear and see what comes out. Take our lead character Harry. What do we know about him? What does Hermione know about him? He is ultra competitive. Perhaps not in the fields she is competing in, but there is no doubt that he is an alpha magic user. Despite whatever protests Harry makes, will he be able to fade from view assuming he offs Voldy? My version of Hermione thinks not. She believes that magical society won't let him go that easily. Hermione also reads her Shakespeare. Harry is always protesting that he would like to slip off into obscurity. Perhaps he doth protest too much? One of her biggest issues is the treatment of magical creatures. Of course in one fell swoop Harry in his capacity as Lord Potter handed the Goblins a whole chunk of power. Hmmm what has Hermione been able to do so far to advance the rights of magical creatures? Harry is competing with her even if he doesn't know it.

    Hermione also is a student of history. Nature abhors a vacuum. When the dust settles from this magical war, there will be a scramble for power. Scrimgeour wants it as does a host of others. Hell Fudge would get take it if it comes his way again. Harry will be an iconic figure in the struggle to come.

    In canon Harry has as much of a blind spot for Malfoy as Snape does for Potter. My version of Harry certainly has anger issues and is primed for violence. He's reacting to the pressure of being a 16 yr old with the weight of the world on his shoulders. He is a loose canon.

    Suppose Hermione had decided that she should have been with Harry? He wants to fade into obscurity and lead a very private life she wants to reform the system. How can those two ideals coexist in a relationship without destroying that relationship? Hence the reason my version of Hermione could easily reject the notion of a Harry relationship beyond friendship.

    In summary, I don't think you are giving my version of Hermione enough credit for forward thinking.

    I appreciate all the other comments as well, but thought that the one from Red deserved special attention. As it is late, I will come back to this and reply to the other ones later.

    Jim
     
  11. Erotic Adventures of S

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    Does your Harry want to fade into nothing after this is over? I know in Canon he just wants to be normal but once this is all over with I thought this Harry may like to stay in politics or keep the Headmaster position. So long as he chooses to be in the spot light I don't think he would mind as much.
     
  12. jbern

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    Good question. Harry doesn't know the answer. Mainly he wants to live.

    To answer an earlier question, Dawlish could probably get a pair of enchanted legs. It probably costs a bunch of coin though. More on that later.

    Jim
     
  13. sirius009

    sirius009 Minister of Magic

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    i love how you explained why hermoine and harry aren't compatible, i've been singing that song for years. You should go post that on some h/hr 4eva!!!! threads.
     
  14. Darius

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    I know you said you'd explain later and if the quality of your story is anything to go by I'm sure you will.

    But wouldn't things such as prosthetic limbs be covered? He is an auror and you'd think they'd have some benefits.

    How much would it cost to wave your wand and VOILA, new silver leg.

    On an off topic point though, JKR throws off her own money system by having Voldemort be able to conjure a solid chunk of silver.
     
  15. jbern

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    He also conjured a silver hand for Peter. Dumbledore could use that spell right now. But then again Voldy is one of the most powerful magic users in the world.

    As for Dawlish, with no legs the enchantment is difficult and expensive. In Moody's case, he still had a leg. The enchantment on Moody's fake leg allowed it to mirror his still functional leg. With no legs to work from the best Dawlish can hope for is the floating equivalent of a wheel chair. We'll see him soon. Dumbles still needs a DADA teacher.
     
  16. Darius

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    But what about muggle prosthetic legs? Surely he could afford those and then enchant them?
     
  17. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Well, I finally got round to reading your story yesterday and thought I would review.

    I must admit, I first read your story a couple of moths ago (at least it feels that long), and was put off in the first 2 chapters by an apparently overpowered Harry. Having read all the way through now, I realise what a mistake it was to stop reading so quickly.

    Your story kept me gripped for basically a whole day; I was unable to stop reading, even for my favourite T.V. programme.

    You have an interesting humane take on Voldemort that I liked; Susan Bones was highly agreeable; and Harry has just the right amount of independance - he is indepandant of the order, yet willing to work with Dumbledore to get the job done.

    Although I famously dislike the whole "magical-core" approach to magical theory, I found a couple of your ideas on it facinating - especially your solution the conjuration problem, where after a critical point the object becomes permament.

    However, as always, there are some areas that I would like to comment on (having not read the rest of the 25 pages of the thread I may be repeating what others have said).

    Firstly, no non-verbal magic? I realise that you are using OotP canon and not HBP, but I felt that non-verbal magic was one of the few good things that came of HBP. There's just something not right in my mind about Voldemort and Dumbledore bellowing incantions at each other across a clearing...when I compare it to the duel in OotP in the Ministry between them, it feels rather...unsophisticated I think is the word.

    Another dislike is related to one of the later chapters - specifically, Susan preventing Harry from shooting Abbot out of the window.

    I know that in any real relationship both partners have to be equal in respect and trust with each other, but as I said, I like my Harry independant, and I feel that he is loosing some of his independance to Susan - in that chapter where she stopped him she was strongly reminicent of canon-Hermione, ordering Harry not to do something. The same result could have been reached by her pleading Harry to stop and Harry out of his love for her would then not smash up Abbot, rather than Harry in obedience to her not smash up Abbot.

    But I suppose this way it creates tension in their relationship and Harry is going to have to admit he was wrong to her (though I still think he should have beat the guy up anyway) - undoubtably I am not going to like that scene either. Submission!Harry is not one of my favourite scenes.

    Anyway, that's enough talking about the negative - apart from those few little quibbles I greatly enjoyed your story and am eager to see more.

    5/5

    EDIT: Don't suppose you could write here a more detailed description of what Susan looks like? e.g. height, body shape ect, as well as her face.

    EDIT 2: I love your Peter, his corporate stratergies gave me the biggest laugh I've had when reading fanfiction for ages.
     
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  18. jbern

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    Thanks for the long reveiw glad I could take up a day of your life. Sorry no refunds.

    The non verbals will show up. My version of non verbals like most weaken the spell. Dumbles and Voldy were going all out, though they both used wandless (also weakens the spell btw). I promise you'll see it when Harry and Snape fight. (Now there's a tease for you...)

    I thought I had a pretty good description of Susan to open the story in chapter 1. 5'6" long straight reddish auburn hair, bluish hazel eyes, very attractive smile well endowed for her frame and slightly self-concious about her new 'assets', attractive, but not stop the presses and follow her around shopping malls until the mall cops ask you to leave. Though the weak mating bond will easily help Harry in that department.

    She could have easily taken the plead with Harry route, but you are forgetting that she was already angry. She's got her flaws too. She limps into the infirmary in pain from her foot to find her significant other inflicting mental punishment on her best friend. Remember, Susan wasn't in the infirmary for the initial exchange. She comes in to find him mentally crushing Hannah and stops him. He gets blown out the window by Peter Abbott. She's horrified and runs as fast as her damaged appendage will carry her to the window trying to summon him. He comes back through the floo looking for a bit of ultraviolence. She knows enough about Harry. He doesn't respond to whiny pleas. He is more than capable of killing Peter Abbott and looks prepared to do it. Harry responds better to anger and she's got some to spare.

    That's what made sense to me when I wrote it. I am already thinking about the makeup scene. I will do my best to avoid dominated!Harry.

    Finally, Pettigrew is one of my guilty pleasures in this story. It's mostly why I couldn't kill him off just yet. We've all met those people in life who are born followers. The kind that join cults after a meeting or two, or come out of self improvement seminars and are so easily brainwashed. That was Peter to me. He's the Death Eater equivalent of a fanatical Amway representative or Mary Kay cosmetics sales person.

    Jim
     
  19. ChuckDaTruck

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    Just to throw this out there I LOVE that you refrence Stanley Kubrick

    "ultraviolence"

    Nice. Its good for this film geek's heart.
     
  20. Darius

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    YES! Pettigrew is my hero, I love how he makes up lack of power with sheer crazyness.

    Harry possesing Pettigrew is the single greatest plot to kill Voldemort ever.

    Dumbledore puzzles me... is he ever going to get his head out of his ass and work with Harry?

    Is Harry at auror standards? Could he last against someone like Shacklebolt before he died?
     
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