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Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Jarizok, May 5, 2018.

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  1. dichotomousCreator

    dichotomousCreator Second Year

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    If you start doing this I'm voting the hell out of you. Tammy, remind me I said this when I inevitably forget.
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    Ha! I'm on 20, eat shit.
     
  2. Gemma

    Gemma Sixth Year

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    Mmm. I don't think number 3 is good reasoning.

    You should reread 112, too. It's actually mostly fluff. The only real contribution to the game in there is:
    The rest is just rambling about things that don't really advance the game (self-meta stuff). I think it makes more sense for him as mafia to talk so much about himself and Tammy's read on him there because if he was town then he has all these things he was working on and instead he decided to talk about something that doesn't help him understand the game any better and only looks superficially good. He is also aware by her own admission that Tammy has a soft spot for self-meta so if he is mafia then he is playing into that. Basically there is plenty of scum motivation for the way he is posting and you shouldn't townread it. (That doesn't mean you should scumread it, necessarily.)

    I think you should be more careful what you classify as fluff and non-fluff generally speaking as well because there's a lot of stuff that scum post in mafia games that's designed to look like content without actually saying anything.
     
  3. dichotomousCreator

    dichotomousCreator Second Year

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    Hrm.

    This opening is weeeeird.

    I wanna say (up to post #40) that it looks good on Vaimes/Tammy and alright on Zen, and that I could buy scum kinda running for the hills when RVS didn't go as planned (although given those three are basically the only posters during that time that's not particularly useful info)
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    side note I still just think fluff is scum all the time so someone else read him for me kthx
     
  4. Fluffiness

    Fluffiness DA Member

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    I just read fluff, he's town.
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    So you think Zen is scum?
     
  5. dichotomousCreator

    dichotomousCreator Second Year

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    Gemma/you anti-align? The way that blew up looks weird af for v/v and is 100% not w/w given how everything else with them went. I think I wanna say Gemma is worse.

    Noted.

    I don't think Zen is scum but I don't think his behaviour early game merits a townread yet either is what I was saying.
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    oh wait the second bit was not aimed at me :v
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    this list is weird as hell because Cobalt/me/lulz have not posted at this point in thee game if I'm correct. Why is he townreading literally everyone who's posted and also putting Cobalt above two others? (Could be I forgot or blipped a cobalt post in which case just point 1)
     
  6. Tammy

    Tammy First Year

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    I don't really follow this point here because it doesn't feel like it follows Gemma's point or even zenzao's posts. Zenzao certainly presented his first couple posts as scum hunting the early joke votes. He took what could only be early joke votes and posts and acted like they were serious posts and scum hunted them. There isn't an amount of scum hunting really to be done there at that time, and Gemma's posts don't say somewhere that there should have been. From the way I read it Gemma was pointing out that he didn't also seem to take into account that those two could just be jokes and therefore he was reaching and shading rather than thinking from more than one angle.

    Which is something that is not necessarily scummy on its face because some people have the super logical/read based on posts rather than behavior play style, which is what I'm thinking Zenzao might be.

    How come Gemma has to just take Vaimes word for zenzao based on meta he's admitted was old? Why can't Gemma push something she finds odd just because Vaimes thought it might be more likely town?

    This morning when I was woke up for a bit and was skimming you guys' interaction, I thought your side was pretty scummy. Basically because you felt like you were hitting some of the same kind of notes that you did last time you were scum. But I'm not sure if I'm overthinking that because that was still there and nobody believed me you were scum for the longest time or if I really believe it for this game.

    I am finding your approach to Gemma as somewhat odd though because I guess I kind of expected you to approach her how you would approach nacho and feel her out a bit before laying down the scumtell gauntlet. I had a moment where I thought maybe the two of you were engaging in a bit of theater and Gemma had asked you to bus her because she didn't want to play as scum, but then she voted you and unless things have changed for her that's something she finds nearly impossible to do, so I'm left just kinda feeling hrm right now. So like the approach isn't what I expected from you as either scum or town, so I think I'm just going to sit on this fence for a few minutes and see how things go from there.
     
  7. dichotomousCreator

    dichotomousCreator Second Year

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    Page 5 Gemma/Vaimes interaction confused the hell out of me but I can't discount that that's just their personalities interacting (which I think would confuse the hell out of me :v)

    I guess it's probably not w/w? I remember the last game where they were w/w and it looked nothing like that.
     
  8. Tammy

    Tammy First Year

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    Oh I forgot I meant to add to that that I went back to the elections game "you" because I remembered a bit of an early row over someone who started early too serious, and your approach there felt different than here, but that was an alted game so I'm not sure what to read into it.
     
  9. dichotomousCreator

    dichotomousCreator Second Year

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    this is some quality content right here

    fuck if I know what it means though
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    okay so I note that "you" didn't do much notable other than the slappy slappy with Gemma which is actually kinda bad given how there was interesting shit to talk about

    I could see you or Gemma as scum (I might be scarred for life by Gemma completely fooling me last game) along with lulz, Vaimes, and MAYbe Zen? I actually think this is probably town!fluff, tammy is spewing town all over the thread, Cobalt hasn't posted.

    I guess, uh. lulz didn't really make an impact, Gemma I don't trust myself to read (I'd read her town but I'm getting similar vibes to last game where she was scum), you I'm not happy with how they zeroed in on Gemma (feels like they used that as an excuse not to do anything else), and Vaimes feels off/lame in a way I associate with his scumgame.

    OK cool scumteam is you/Vaimes easy game

    Lynch: you

    you is the one without a wagon yet, yes?
     
  10. H_A_Greene

    H_A_Greene High Inquisitor –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    See, my gut instinct to this is scum!Fluff realizing he can't myslynch me as easily right now, but your points a bit lower do seem genuine on the whole(the high activity bit is a maybe, I haven't been that active over the past 18 hours).

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    And here we have the classic 'forget an /quote and get a bunch of quotes welded together' hilarity. Excuse me while I try to fix this.
     
  11. dichotomousCreator

    dichotomousCreator Second Year

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    btw me calling the scumteam D1 is a foolproof towntell until I decide to try and fake it as scum, so no need to bother reading me this game
     
  12. H_A_Greene

    H_A_Greene High Inquisitor –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Okay, it was the first quote at the top I forgot to /quote on.
    More or less yeah.

    Mostly on Vaimes. Let me pull up the stuff for him from the chain reply.

    I don't really think I'll have any problems with your voting practices. I'd agree with 'you's' assessment that discussing meta as town/scum is null at best, but it is nice to hear your style like this and have a frame of reference to look back on as the Day wears on.

    Thanks for saying that. I've come across too hard before with players like Mathblade, Titus(neither of which I play with any longer) and I don't want to ruin the experience for you on DLP.

    As far as seriousness goes, I've seen town!Vaimes be serious at... FantasyStrike? No, it was that other site and the game I replaced into and spent most of the game clashing with him as a fellow townie(albeit in a scumread slot). Bare Bones something mafia. On here, he's generally a lot more talkative and 'fluffy'. From a brief glance through the first few pages of Mountainous #1 I believe scum!Vaimes opened his first post with a vote which he did not do here, so eh.

    Town!Vaimes in my last scum!me game felt a lot more certain he'd nailed me off of my opening post.

    His opening comment about my alignment in this game is +/-,
    This is a fair assessment from him at least. I did crash and burn that game.

    Getting back to what you, Tammy, had said
    I agree with this. He's isn't necessarily scummy but I'm not thrilled with him so far. What he said about his playstyle a rubs me the wrong way based on our past interactions.

    See, that does bother me. That is not the Vaimes that I know from past games, he's hella uncomfortable rolling scum and tends to be quieter, at least in Narutomafia. I really need to go back over Mountainous and ISO him there to see if the underlined is even remotely true of his scumgame behavior in the past yearish.

    Fair enough. Reasoning? Strike that, I just got the quote notification(and I now see what Tammy meant regarding the full reply box) and I'll get to you in a moment.

    Alright, fair enough.

    Let's agree to disagree that it isn't advancing the game. I always quote my past meta in current mafia games with players who aren't familiar with me. I hadn't posted more insofar as hunting until the above stuff on Vaimes re Tammy's inquiry about what I agree with because I'm actually waiting on response to my wall, and it looks like dC at least has noted the deliberate oddities.

    Not my place to address this but you get a decent sized 'Hm...' out of me.

    I wholeheartedly approve. Does this count as a wall to you?

    I'd lean in agreement here, and on Gemma being worse.

    Yes, it is weird isn't it? Anyone else want to take another look and see if they can comprehend?[/QUOTE]
     
  13. Tammy

    Tammy First Year

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    That makes it easy then, DC is town!
     
  14. dichotomousCreator

    dichotomousCreator Second Year

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    Yes.

    Someone else tell me if attempting to mindfuck town is Zen's scum meta, because I actually kinda don't like this response. It's like he realized he was doing a scumtell he mentioned earlier and felt the need to blow it off. Or is lolcatting :v
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    For real though, no counter-banter from Vaimes here? Scuuuuuuum.

    I'm not gonna bother voting him though because he'll just keep slanking and I'll sit there looking stupid for most of the day.
     
  15. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    that's not what you said last game

    Zenzao, your ignorance of my past scum performance in addition to how I felt about my performance doesn't give you an excuse to shade me. Educate yourself and try again. Or just focus on what I've done in this thread.
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    I'm not sober and the Office is playing in the background.
     
  16. Tammy

    Tammy First Year

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    How often have you found scum to be the ones who say things like, "I'll let you decide if it's serious" or "I'll let you figure out why"?
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    Gemma i thought you'd interact with me when i showed up :(
     
  17. Vaimes

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    I am not someone who keeps track of that sort of thing.
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    I'm actually surprised more than one person is dissatisfied with me from an alignment perspective. I feel like I've been pretty town.
     
  18. H_A_Greene

    H_A_Greene High Inquisitor –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Hm. Now that is interesting food for thought and I will have to take that into consideration and look back over their interaction.

    Mimefia, act 1 the wall], Mimefia, act 2 the bullshido, Mimefia, act 3 the reveal].

    TLDR: I always post my walls in reverse order, new change for this game in that non-posting players get nulled and lowered to bottom of the wall instead of middle as usual. I do this to trip up people who expect top to bottom for town to scum and to generate reactions.

    /shrug/ I view your behavior so far this game as shady enough to stay on my radar.
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    Excuse me while I scream at manually doing html.
     
  19. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    That's fine. I'll win you over sooner than you expect.
     
  20. Jarizok

    Jarizok High Inquisitor

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    Official Vote count 1.2

    Gemma (3): Tammy, you, Zenzao
    Vaimes (2): Cobalt, lulz
    lulz (1) : Vaimes
    Zenzao (1): Gemma
    you (1): dC

    Not voting (1): fluff

    Soft lynch is 5 votes, hard lynch is 7.

    Day ends in just over 47 hours.

    Edit: Because I'm allowed to and you guys aren't.
     
    Last edited: May 7, 2018
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